Water in engine

[glasshouse]

Just acquired a ih tractor that has a sump full of water,
What is correct method to remove it?

 

[JeremyD]

Take sump off. But why is it?

 

[glasshouse]

Take sump off. But why is it?

Lying outside

 

[Flatlander]

Shouldn’t be water in the sump even stood outside for twenty years unless oil filler cap was off. Frozen block/split liners /head gaskets woukd be my first thoughts. Drain and remove sump and fill with water and see what’s dripping coukd pressurize too

 

[Flatlander]

Crank will be a mess if it’s been in water long. Total rebuild on its way.

 

[glasshouse]

Shouldn’t be water in the sump even stood outside for twenty years unless oil filler cap was off. Frozen block/split liners /head gaskets woukd be my first thoughts. Drain and remove sump and fill with water and see what’s dripping coukd pressurize too

Dipstick missing

 

[suffolksmallholder]

Drain oil. Fill with new. Run. If it goes pop then find a new engine. If it doesn’t then you’re ok.
It’s not like they’re stressed and racing or are you a ‘hoon’ in disguise
SS

 

[glasshouse]

Drain oil. Fill with new. Run. If it goes pop then find a new engine. If it doesn’t then you’re ok.
It’s not like they’re stressed and racing or are you a ‘hoon’ in disguise
SS

I fear cylinders will also be full

 

[Tractor Tim]

Had a big generator out of a hospital years ago flap on the exhaust had rotted and water filled the sump and half way up the block. Turbo was seized solid, sent that off to be rebuilt heads of and put some duck oil in each cylinder left it for a month and topped it up if needed managed to turn it over with a lot of brute force reassemble if and started relatively easily from what I remember. It did smoke a lot for the first 30 min

 

[suffolksmallholder]

I fear cylinders will also be full

So?
Get it going
Maybe change the oil twice.
If it runs, it runs and go from there
SS

 

[glasshouse]

So?
Get it going
Maybe change the oil twice.
If it runs, it runs and go from there
SS

I asked correct method to remove water from cylinders and sump
I fully intend to start it
Its not home yet

 

[suffolksmallholder]

My very old Deutz tractor fired up after sitting outside for 18 months.
BANG went the brakes as they came unstuck from the drums and it drove down to the yard to chop firewood. The gearbox still makes noises from when I bought it twelve years ago half full of water but I changed the oil and cover the gear levers as that’s where the water gets in….
I’m just going to run the old girl ‘till pop time or if not then she’s a winner.
SS

 

[suffolksmallholder]

I asked correct method to remove water from cylinders and sump
I fully intend to start it
Its not home yet

Drain things. Add oil ATF/WD/Petdiesel where necessary.
Start. Run. Pray, in that order.
SS

 

[spark plug]

Drop the water out the sump in the usual manner, the same as the oil. If it’s direct injection remove the injectors and turn over to fire any water out of the cylinders.

 

[suffolksmallholder]

Be handy if folk knew what type of IH tractor y’all be talking about.
B250?
414?
614? Even
Or much newer.
The old ladies will take an enormous amount of abuse and still come up with a smile.
As you progress into the newer that curve flattens out.
SS

 

[glasshouse]

Be handy if folk knew what type of IH tractor y’all be talking about.
B250?
414?
614? Even
Or much newer.
The old ladies will take an enormous amount of abuse and still come up with a smile.
As you progress into the newer that curve flattens out.
SS

684
Been sat ten yr +

 

[suffolksmallholder]

684
Been sat ten yr +

Old enough to be an old girl.
We had one at t’mill and it was pretty bullet proof. Although it’s engine never filled up with water
SS

 

[glasshouse]

Old enough to be an old girl.
We had one at t’mill and it was pretty bullet proof. Although it’s engine never filled up with water
SS

The exhaust has rotted above the silencer letting in the water.
I only bought it for parts, if it runs its a bonus

 

[REStracTORATION]

I asked correct method to remove water from cylinders and sump
I fully intend to start it
Its not home yet

Id keep it simple

Drain bung out and flush with a bit of diesel a couple of times

See if you can turn it over by hand either on the crank or via removing starter and using a bar on flywheel

If you can turn it over then I'd say there isn't any water in the cylinders

If it's hard to turn over or won't
Then there is either water in the bores or they're rusted up
Injectors out and then see if it turns to push the water out might starter fitting to give it the momentum and force etc if that makes sense

Don't forgot to fill with engine oil though if using the starter etc

 

[essexpete]

After Resto's suggestions, It would not be a massive job on a 684 to drop the sump and change the pistons, liners and BE shells. All a question of how farm do you go.