Water Main Cost per M?

[Jerry]

32mm .70p/m here just put 1200m in. Moled 1000m in 3h one afternoon.

At what depth did you mole at and how?

 

[Jerry]

Bore hole not an option?

It is a thought but most of consumption is domestic as I don’t house stock much and when I do I have a rain water harvest system set up with 10k litre holding capacity

 

[Jerry]

Unless it's simply and deffo just a pipe size problem, I'd have to look at exploring private supply - for at least the farm consumption.
Spending money to help you buy their water faster sounds like it's going down the wrong track, and the risk of a major leak should a beast knock off a fitting unseen could pay for a lot of your own infrastructure.

Just thinking out loud

It’s an option but as above I have plenty of water in yard for stock with rain water harvesting.

Consumption is 90% domestic and I don’t know Enough about water regs re supplying domestic potable water from a borehole.

 

[Stw88]

At what depth did you mole at and how?

14-18inch roughly. Used an old trailed forestry plough with box section down the back of the boot to place the pipe in rather than pulling it.
Did a dry run first to make sure there was no obstacles the. Put the pipe in on the second pass.

 

[Ukjay]

Domestic water pipe should be dug between 750 and 1350mm deep to comply with WRAS.
Any variation to that and you then need to notify the water supplier.

 

[Jerry]

14-18inch roughly. Used an old trailed forestry plough with box section down the back of the boot to place the pipe in rather than pulling it.
Did a dry run first to make sure there was no obstacles the. Put the pipe in on the second pass.
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Thanks. I’ll have to be deeper than that as it’s across arable ground.

 

[Hard Graft]

If it’s 90% domestic then I would consider staying with mains as it’s less hassle.

For us our mains is very soft but ground water hard out off a local bore hole so will stay with mains for some jobs in houses and will add bore for loos etc as time goes on and refit the houses as we are aloud so much free and then pay for the rest

 

[upnortheast]

Bore hole not an option?

A bore hole, with filters, water softeners & pump will cost in excess of £10k. (subject to capacity )
So i reckon your daily consumption needs to 8 cu m or more a day to make it worth while.

We use about 16 cu m day & the borehole paid off its capital cost in 2 years

 

[Muddyroads]

A bore hole, with filters, water softeners & pump will cost in excess of £10k. (subject to capacity )
So i reckon your daily consumption needs to 8 cu m or more a day to make it worth while.

We use about 16 cu m day & the borehole paid off its capital cost in 2 years

Get a couple of big leeks on mains like we did and the bore hole pays for itself even more quickly!

 

[Wombat]

Domestic water pipe should be dug between 750 and 1350mm deep to comply with WRAS.
Any variation to that and you then need to notify the water supplier.

The main water main past our gate isn’t that deep

 

[Speedstar]

As i understand it is your pipe as it is after the metre, so is nothing to do with water company.
if you are supplying 7 properties off a 20 mm pipe no wonder it is low pressure.
for houses 2 inch or 63mm should be fine but if livestock is involved i would go larger.
no big job with a back acter probably 2 days and although cheaper per meter a trencher will probably cost more to get in.
20mm to the individual properties should be fine

That is not the case if he is putting a new water pipe in with a new connection it all need to be done by the book , ie GPS photo's taken every 25 meters of it for the depth of the new pipe ,min 1000mm , were it is at , if on hard land it needs to be in bedding sand, it may be his pipe but he needs to do all this to tick the boxes for the water company to connect it to the mains pipe

 

[Cowcalf]

could you not put a large holding tank near houses / steading and the add a pump to keep all holding tank the houses and stock pressure fed with mains supply constantly topping up

 

[Jerry]

That is not the case if he is putting a new water pipe in with a new connection it all need to be done by the book , ie GPS photo's taken every 25 meters of it for the depth of the new pipe ,min 1000mm , were it is at , if on hard land it needs to be in bedding sand, it may be his pipe but he needs to do all this to tick the boxes for the water company to connect it to the mains pipe

Whats the definition of a new connection?

If I’m just replacing my pipe my side of the meter does the water company need to know?

 

[Jerry]

could you not put a large holding tank near houses / steading and the add a pump to keep all holding tank the houses and stock pressure fed with mains supply constantly topping up

Interesting idea I need to think a bit more about......

 

[Speedstar]

Whats the definition of a new connection?

If I’m just replacing my pipe my side of the meter does the water company need to know?

If using the old meter etc it is not a new connection but I think you will still need to have gps photos etc

 

[Jerry]

If using the old meter etc it is not a new connection but I think you will still need to have gps photos etc

GPS is sensible. I’m nit 100% sure of the current pipe route, hence why I found it with a subsoiler a couple years ago...

 

[Ukjay]

The main water main past our gate isn’t that deep

You appear to have ignored this part

'Any variation to that and you then need to notify the water supplier'.

WRAS give you and easier breakdown to the 'Water Regs' which is a nice to have point of reference for people to help understand the requirements, as the 'The Water Supply (Water Fittings) Regulations 1999' is a bit long in the tooth to read through.
If however, you decide not to follow the regs, it is your decision and you can ignore the regs if you so wish and it is not for me to say either way.

Water Regs: Ref Table section 4:i

 

[Ukjay]

Whats the definition of a new connection?

If I’m just replacing my pipe my side of the meter does the water company need to know?

Normally it is recognised as being you the homeowner being responsible for the maintenance / repair from the stop tap / outlet of the meter to the house, so technically; you can argue you are replacing a failed water pipe, thus you were doing your part in conserving water were you not
If you buy wras approved fittings and pipe (which it is difficult not to these days if buying from reputable places), then there is nothing too daunting about it.
Also, if you know what meter you have, you can then find the tech data to see the connection sizes and flow rates etc to give you an idea of what you are dealing with to aid getting the appropriate fittings, as there is no point trying to fit a 63mm pipe if it has 3/4 BSP fittings.

 

[SilliamWhale]

could you not put a large holding tank near houses / steading and the add a pump to keep all holding tank the houses and stock pressure fed with mains supply constantly topping up

This is what I was mulling over recently on another thread. Allow the main to fill up during the day/ overnight and then use it from a pump system, as I want to split my 25mm service pipe into 3 properties.

Been thinking about this

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It seems plug and play and suitable for potable water. The only thing is is weather you will use all the water quicker than the mains can fill up again - in which case you could still use a pump like this but a larger tank and probably need a uv filter. But if your mains is capable of keeping up with demand now, then it may be capable of keeping up with this.

 

[SilliamWhale]

Whats the definition of a new connection?

If I’m just replacing my pipe my side of the meter does the water company need to know?

I'm not sure adding a 32mm pipe to your connection after the water boards 25mm main is going to give you more flow. 7 properties off a 20mm main is loads!

If you can find someone who knows what they are doing what you really need is something like a 5-10k water tank and a booster pump set up and put it in somewhere before all your pipes start to split off. Ideally in a shed.

I had a quote for something like this recently and it was nearly £4 plus vat. But currently I'm trying to find a cheaper way