Water troughs

[early riser]

Just on pricing up options for water troughs for cubicle crossover passages.

Looking at either tipping troughs or the rapid empty ones with the large bung on the base.

What would folks recommend and is there any issues with either design? I like the rapid empty troughs from Teemore as they can be scrubbed out whilst the water is emptying, but they lack capacity compared to a tipping trough which is a concern for us with crappy water pressure.

Galv vs stainless steel?? I know stainless will last longer and the water keep fresher, but at nearly £200 difference for a 2m trough I would be struggling to justify it!

@Kingofgrass what did you go for in your new building?

Thanks

 

[DairyGrazing]

Just on pricing up options for water troughs for cubicle crossover passages.

Looking at either tipping troughs or the rapid empty ones with the large bung on the base.

What would folks recommend and is there any issues with either design? I like the rapid empty troughs from Teemore as they can be scrubbed out whilst the water is emptying, but they lack capacity compared to a tipping trough which is a concern for us with crappy water pressure.

Galv vs stainless steel?? I know stainless will last longer and the water keep fresher, but at nearly £200 difference for a 2m trough I would be struggling to justify it!

@Kingofgrass what did you go for in your new building?

Thanks

Stainless you won’t regret it we’re replacing all ours at the moment. You won’t regret it. Should have had stainless troughs in the parlour as well. Steer clear of Teemore.

 

[Tarw Coch]

If you've got poor water pressure you need capacity, you can get concrete water troughs with large bungs for rapid emptying, won't be as quick as a tip over trough obviously but I would think having water in front of the cows at all times, not waiting for water is more important.

 

[Kingofgrass]

Just on pricing up options for water troughs for cubicle crossover passages.

Looking at either tipping troughs or the rapid empty ones with the large bung on the base.

What would folks recommend and is there any issues with either design? I like the rapid empty troughs from Teemore as they can be scrubbed out whilst the water is emptying, but they lack capacity compared to a tipping trough which is a concern for us with crappy water pressure.

Galv vs stainless steel?? I know stainless will last longer and the water keep fresher, but at nearly £200 difference for a 2m trough I would be struggling to justify it!

@Kingofgrass what did you go for in your new building?

Thanks

8ft stainless ones with the valve,the cows will drink more I guarantee it,the ball valves they supply are crap but the troughs are good.stainless all the way buy cheap buy twice.i wish I had stainless troughs every where

 

[S J H]

Stainless you won’t regret it we’re replacing all ours at the moment. You won’t regret it. Should have had stainless troughs in the parlour as well. Steer clear of Teemore.

What problems have you had with teemore if you don't mind me asking?

 

[bigw]

I really like our teemore troughs but I wish I had bought them stainless instead of galvanised.

 

[buffalo_soldier]

Got a mix of iae and Bateman tippers here.
Prefer the Bateman for ease of use.
The iae are longer lasting though.

 

[Milkcow365]

Made our own here just doubled the thickness of all the steel Iae used, pm me if your interested

 

[coomoo]

View attachment 652492 Made our own here just doubled the thickness of all the steel Iae used, pm me if your interested

Good idea. What’s the ratchet strap for?

 

[Milkcow365]

Good idea. What’s the ratchet strap for?

Stop the cows going into the cubicles!! Haha

 

[coomoo]

Stop the cows going into the cubicles!! Haha

O I see. Are you going to take the old space boarding off?

 

[Milkcow365]

O I see. Are you going to take the old space boarding off?

Yes that’s the plan,open it up might need fans in that shed not sure yet, as you know it’s only warm enough for about a week that you need them

 

[yin ewe]

https://www.teemoreengineering.com/drinkers/galvanised-fast-empty-drinker.php
https://www.moore-concrete.com/agriculture/in-house-water-trough/

We have one each of these for the milkers, we like them as you can use a brush to sweep them out as the water is emptying.

 

[early riser]

Stainless you won’t regret it we’re replacing all ours at the moment. You won’t regret it. Should have had stainless troughs in the parlour as well. Steer clear of Teemore.

What issues have you had with Teemore?

 

[buffalo_soldier]

View attachment 652492 Made our own here just doubled the thickness of all the steel Iae used, pm me if your interested

Do you make them for others?

 

[Bald Rick]

Teemore stainless 4m big bung in one shed. Fine if you can live with the slightly rough finish and their appalling ball valves - ditch these pdq and fit standard rapid fill ones from any DIY or Ag merchant

However by far & away the best troughs we have are Jyden Bur from Denmark

http://www.jydendirect.com/water-systems-cattle/

mind you the collapse of the pound against the euro has messed this up. Our 2m & 4m Jydens were 00s of £s cheaper than UK stainless when we bought ours.
Note that they do other cattle stuff too so if you can put a package together, you might be able to do a deal.

 

[Grassman247]

Stay clear of tipping troughs, the flexi hose always fails

 

[SJM]

Have deep tipping troughs here, not a fan. Unless your tipping them out daily the water gets stagnant quick.

Do these shallow stainless troughs manage to keep up with housed cows on a hot day even with good water pressure? Certainly seem to be a better product from a freshness point of view...

 

[early riser]

To put things in perspective, this is a building for 8,000litre mainly autumn calving cows housed for 150days, not an 11,000 litre fully housed Holstein herd.

I totally get what people are saying regarding stainless troughs, but this is a rented farm on a non-aligned contract so unfortunately there is not an unlimited budget and you have to ask yourself where do you draw the line and compromise?? If I went for the gold standard option for every element of the shed then I will quickly be spending over £2k per cow place which isn't sustainable

 

[awkward]

have tipping stainless with high flow valves here no regrets. emptied and cleaned in a minute or two from Condons Engineering