Way forward

[Grass And Grain]

Go on holiday.

With the cows!

 

[farmboy]

have you had a look at the farming connect joint venture opportunities? There might be some dairy farms on there

Thanks I’ll have a look

 

[farmboy]

You've got the wrong end of my stick, the OP says he owns a house with very little left on the loan with some cash in the bank, I would suggest looking out for an existing , if run down steading and say 20 to 50 acres ( I don't know the land market in the OP's area) and look at putting 50 to 100 cows on rather than being transfixed by the 'it has to be 250 plus grazing in the spring' fixation . He could possibly consider robots and keeping his current job or a milking only employee for the new enterprise and doing the same.
I would advise against selling or mortgaging assets to go farming in a rented situation but I do see the attraction.

Interesting thoughts thanks, land isn’t too cheap around here!!

 

[ollie989898]

That's a fantastic idea, except for one minor problem, how would TB be managed?

Simple.

You shoot anyone from the ministry asking about it then bury them on the plain where no one will ever find them.

It is a gaping hole in my master plan though; better to move and try the system in the Cerrado of Brazil where there is something bigger that eats badgers.

 

[ollie989898]

I'm probably being a bit thick, but if someone is using a mobile parlour and summer grazing, what do you do in winter with the cows?

Mob stock them across a hefty area of cover crops? On the plain they shouldn't make too much mess, certainly nothing like outdoor pigs for 2 years!

 

[Dead Rabbits]

You can fit a 20:40 on an artic. Just
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I’ll take two please.

 

[Dead Rabbits]

Knee deep was an exageration but I have seen photos of the chap in the pit splashing around in several inches of wet mud.

Sounds like my kinda place, where do I sign up?

 

[wasted years]

Interesting thoughts thanks, land isn’t too cheap around here!!

No, and that is the bit that needs alot of thought (like what do you think the value of land is going to do) but the same applies to rents.
One of the problems with renting is that if the farm is in any way decent you will face lots of competition so you will inevitably have to pay well to get it and then you have the term length to worry about.
I would suggest 10 years is too short unless the farm is good to go from the start and you can capitalise it in month 1.
You will be surprised how the age of 33 turns into 53 as well, at your age your success is assured and you will live forever if you pour all of your thirties into someone else's place and for whatever reason it doesn't work out you will never get that time back, thats not to say don't have a go just to stack things in your favour as much as possible.

 

[dairyrow]

http://www.grichards.co.uk/files/pdf/details164.pdf

heres one for somebody

 

[farmboy]

http://www.grichards.co.uk/files/pdf/details164.pdf

heres one for somebody

Think that might be a bit out of my league to start!!

 

[Beef farmer]

http://www.grichards.co.uk/files/pdf/details164.pdf

heres one for somebody

@Headless chicken your rotary sir

 

[RAF]

That’s mad will they get many takers ?

 

[buffalo_soldier]

Think that might be a bit out of my league to start!!

Thats out of my league now.

Rent will be £15k/month.
Then the ingoings

 

[farmboy]

Thats out of my league now.

Rent will be £15k/month.
Then the ingoings

You’ve got to buy the existing herd!

 

[Beef farmer]

That’s mad will they get many takers ?

Loads

 

[frederick]

The tb gamble is huge.

Whats the welsh value of pedigree tb cows?
If the agreement to buy the cows isnt reciprocal at the end then all profits made over 10 years could be completely lost if your forced to dispose cows to slaughter

 

[Beef farmer]

The tb gamble is huge.

Whats the welsh value of pedigree tb cows?
If the agreement to buy the cows isnt reciprocal at the end then all profits made over 10 years could be completely lost if your forced to dispose cows to slaughter

Sold on England Tb valuation. So at a guess, they will average 900 quid

 

[Beef farmer]

Scrap that, pedigree valuations

 

[Beef farmer]

Be a 7 figure in goings

 

[wasted years]

That’s mad will they get many takers ?

'No break clauses' is a condition that stands out, in other words you have it for ten years whether you can make a go of it or not, I would want break clauses my way.
Also they have tried to sell the farm but couldn't presumably they over valued it, a wonderful farm but a death knell if you get it wrong.