Wayne Couzens

[Fendt65]

Dick is slippery

I find for best results

 

[wanton dwarf]

You make the same assumptions I would have some years ago. Convicted offenders are all deranged and get off on the acts they have committed- all clearly 'sick in the head', etc etc etc.

Only that isn't true of the vast majority of cases. In reality, these people can be tortured by their own conscience for years. Some of them will actively wish they were dead or even attempt suicide. As I said, being detained against your will is a daily, hourly and moment by moment assault on your mind, body and soul. It is the very last thing I would ever want to experience. Prisons are not great places to be in.

Compared to Sarah Everard's final hours, prison is heaven.

He's relatively safe, warm and fed.

Given the fact he is seriously disturbed the pretense he has a conscience or moral values is doubtful. A psychopath will say whatever he thinks will press the right buttons.

Everybody is tortured by their conscience. a lot of people have gone through phases of wishing themselves harm, some have attempted suicide and unfortunately far too many succeed.

 

[Muck Spreader]

NORTH Yorkshire's Conservative police commissioner Philip Allott told BBC Radio York: “So women, first of all, need to be streetwise about when they can be arrested and when they can’t be arrested. She should never have been arrested and submitted to that.

“Perhaps women need to consider in terms of the legal process, to just learn a bit about that legal process.”

FFS what is wrong with these people, he should be removed from his job immediately as he is evidently totally clueless about people and society.

 

[le bon paysan]

NORTH Yorkshire's Conservative police commissioner Philip Allott told BBC Radio York: “So women, first of all, need to be streetwise about when they can be arrested and when they can’t be arrested. She should never have been arrested and submitted to that.

“Perhaps women need to consider in terms of the legal process, to just learn a bit about that legal process.”

FFS what is wrong with these people, he should be removed from his job immediately as he is evidently totally clueless about people and society.

f**king unbelievable!
I've bought my girls up to respect the law and the police are there to help and enforce the law. How would I explain this statement to them?
By the way girls , your Christmas present is enrollment in the gun club and lessons .

 

[toquark]

There are some crimes which when they happen really hit home, I’m not sure whether it was the fact she was a similar age to me or that she was friends with a friend who lives in London, but as the details emerged after the sentencing, you can barely imagine what the poor girl was going through in her final hours and what her family continue to live with.

As for Couzens, hanging’s too good for him. Let him rot. I would hope that he would come across some suitably nasty characters who take a dim view of cops who murder innocent women.

 

[BrianV]

Police chief on the radio the other day saying in all honesty if his daughter was attacked sadly he would advise her not to report it as Tory cuts to courts resulting in hundreds of local courts closing has caused an horrendous backlog of cases meaning any case could be 3 or 4 years before any prosecution could happen, he would not want his daughter to relive the horrendous experience years later! Yet again misleading statements coming from Tory ministers mouths trying to imply the police are the main fault when in fact yet again it’s the government that should shoulder the blame.

 

[Exfarmer]

Police chief on the radio the other day saying in all honesty if his daughter was attacked sadly he would advise her not to report it as Tory cuts to courts resulting in hundreds of local courts closing has caused an horrendous backlog of cases meaning any case could be 3 or 4 years before any prosecution could happen, he would not want his daughter to relive the horrendous experience years later! Yet again misleading statements coming from Tory ministers mouths trying to imply the police are the main fault when in fact yet again it’s the government that should shoulder the blame.

I suspect the Couzens knew that his flashing offences , which took place in a hired car apparently, would not be persuade as it would take too many man hours to chase up the hire company then get the evidence together, for what would normally result in a caution.
What drives any to drive with their genitals out I do not know but probably we should be asking why such crimes are considered not worth chasing up.

 

[Danllan]

I think he should not have a whole life sentence, rather a long drop with a short rope

Then we have to vote in a government that will legislate to allow it.

I think the whole tale shows the extent to which the police are utterly corrupt from top to bottom...

Emphatically no. The 'ethos' of the police has definitely changed over the last twenty years, and in my opinion for the worse; and the same goes for 'leadership'. Both have been politically driven, from the 'left' and so the result was predictable and has come to pass.

There are of course corrupt police, but the forces as a whole are not corrupt; that written, in many places they are incompetent, very frequently they are misguided and, all too often, officious.

But they are not endemically corrupt; there are still a large number of police who do not regard their primary job as being to preach / enforce the enlightenment of woke politics, or to cover up for their colleagues' failings.

Instead, they are there to ensure the law is applied objectively and that it works as the societal 'lubricant' it was always intended to be. From my own experience - and that of others whose opinions I trust - I would say that this describes over half those currently serving in forces.

The problem is that this number is diminishing; which leads us back to the need to elect a government that will change things, in this instance by changing the people at the top of the police...

 

[Goweresque]

But they are not endemically corrupt; there are still a large number of police who do not regard their primary job as being to preach / enforce the enlightenment of woke politics, or to cover up for their colleagues' failings.

I disagree, while the number of 'bad apples' may not be that large (but its large enough, as we are finding out with the increasing use of personal recording devices, videos of the police behaving illegally, or lying about what the law is, are becoming ten a penny) the number of 'good apples' who turn a blind eye to the bad 'uns actions are exponentially larger. If a police officer knows a colleague is a wrong 'un, or has broken the law in some way, and does nothing about it they are as bad as he is.

Thats why I say they are corrupt from bottom to top, because the good guys know they will not be backed up by management (and their colleagues) if they spill the beans. So they remain silent, and thus become complicit in the corruption. Its not enough to say 'I do my job correctly' if you then ignore those around you breaking the rules.

 

[BrianV]

I disagree, while the number of 'bad apples' may not be that large (but its large enough, as we are finding out with the increasing use of personal recording devices, videos of the police behaving illegally, or lying about what the law is, are becoming ten a penny) the number of 'good apples' who turn a blind eye to the bad 'uns actions are exponentially larger. If a police officer knows a colleague is a wrong 'un, or has broken the law in some way, and does nothing about it they are as bad as he is.

Thats why I say they are corrupt from bottom to top, because the good guys know they will not be backed up by management (and their colleagues) if they spill the beans. So they remain silent, and thus become complicit in the corruption. Its not enough to say 'I do my job correctly' if you then ignore those around you breaking the rules.

I have a feeling that the police like anyone else do get throughly fed up with arresting people only for the courts to then let them go & do begin to start to ignore cases, just for instance those prats blocking roads to highlight insulation, can you imagine arresting & moving the buggers only to find the self same prats turning up the very next day, you could say we get the police service that we deserve!

 

[Danllan]

I disagree, while the number of 'bad apples' may not be that large (but its large enough, as we are finding out with the increasing use of personal recording devices, videos of the police behaving illegally, or lying about what the law is, are becoming ten a penny) the number of 'good apples' who turn a blind eye to the bad 'uns actions are exponentially larger. If a police officer knows a colleague is a wrong 'un, or has broken the law in some way, and does nothing about it they are as bad as he is.

Thats why I say they are corrupt from bottom to top, because the good guys know they will not be backed up by management (and their colleagues) if they spill the beans. So they remain silent, and thus become complicit in the corruption. Its not enough to say 'I do my job correctly' if you then ignore those around you breaking the rules.

If anyone police officer ignores illegal action by a colleague, he is not doing his job correctly. There is a distinction between there being corrupt individuals distributed from 'top to bottom', and there being corruption 'everywhere' from top to bottom.

 

[Oldmacdonald]

@Danllan , is there any wrongs in the world that you don't dismiss as being the result of 'wokeness'

It seems its all you blame anything on.

 

[Exfarmer]

@Danllan , is there any wrongs in the world that you don't dismiss as being the result of 'wokeness'

It seems its all you blame anything on.

Thats grossly unfair, most he blames on remainers

 

[ollie989898]

NORTH Yorkshire's Conservative police commissioner Philip Allott told BBC Radio York: “So women, first of all, need to be streetwise about when they can be arrested and when they can’t be arrested. She should never have been arrested and submitted to that.

“Perhaps women need to consider in terms of the legal process, to just learn a bit about that legal process.”

FFS what is wrong with these people, he should be removed from his job immediately as he is evidently totally clueless about people and society.

This is the problem with the country today- too many people in positions of great power and responsibility despite having the brain of a gnat. The bloke should be sacked as he is clearly a moron.

 

[ollie989898]

Police chief on the radio the other day saying in all honesty if his daughter was attacked sadly he would advise her not to report it as Tory cuts to courts resulting in hundreds of local courts closing has caused an horrendous backlog of cases meaning any case could be 3 or 4 years before any prosecution could happen, he would not want his daughter to relive the horrendous experience years later! Yet again misleading statements coming from Tory ministers mouths trying to imply the police are the main fault when in fact yet again it’s the government that should shoulder the blame.

The usual cop out.

 

[Ffermer Bach]

Then we have to vote in a government that will legislate to allow it.


Emphatically no. The 'ethos' of the police has definitely changed over the last twenty years, and in my opinion for the worse; and the same goes for 'leadership'. Both have been politically driven, from the 'left' and so the result was predictable and has come to pass.

There are of course corrupt police, but the forces as a whole are not corrupt; that written, in many places they are incompetent, very frequently they are misguided and, all too often, officious.

But they are not endemically corrupt; there are still a large number of police who do not regard their primary job as being to preach / enforce the enlightenment of woke politics, or to cover up for their colleagues' failings.

Instead, they are there to ensure the law is applied objectively and that it works as the societal 'lubricant' it was always intended to be. From my own experience - and that of others whose opinions I trust - I would say that this describes over half those currently serving in forces.

The problem is that this number is diminishing; which leads us back to the need to elect a government that will change things, in this instance by changing the people at the top of the police...

as far as capital punishment goes, I think all our parties are out of step with society, having said that, I am not sure a majority would favour capital punishment, I would expect it would be around 50 50, but no party would ever think to have a referendum, especially as our leader of the opposition was knighted for opposing the death penalty in several Caribbean countries .

 

[Danllan]

@Danllan , is there any wrongs in the world that you don't dismiss as being the result of 'wokeness'

It seems its all you blame anything on.

It is the route of a very great deal that is wrong, but certainly not all. I also blame general dishonesty, lack of integrity, hypocrisy and lack of moral courage - wokeness, of course, includes each of these - but, sadly, they are not exclusive to it...

 

[arcobob]

Killing him if you believe in eternal damnation etc is fine because his punishment comes after death but in reality you can’t wish for a worse punishment than having an ex policeman/ rapist locked up for the rest of his natural life amongst people whose sole intention will be to make him suffer. This is going to be both prison staff and other inmates ( if they are allowed to get near him ) . Hanging takes a few moments what’s going to happen to him will last a lifetime

Cannot agree more except that one day someone is going to campaign for a reason to let him out and they probably will. Brexit means Brexit as they say.

 

[Lowland1]

Cannot agree more except that one day someone is going to campaign for a reason to let him out and they probably will. Brexit means Brexit as they say.

True as time passes the perception of how evil this crime was will diminish.

 

[Ffermer Bach]

True as time passes the perception of how evil this crime was will diminish.

What will happen is the parole board will say "he is no longer a risk to society, so can be released under licence", the home secretary will wring their hands and say "there is nothing I can do as it's out of my hands"