We are only hobby farmers in the uk

bluebell

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but then look at french agriculture, yes they have large farms, but they also have many many small family farms, plus the farmers, fishermen in france have a lot of political power? Its about numbers?
 

Hilly

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Son is doing the USA harvest this year ,he has been over there since mid March in South Dakota getting things ready .Yesterday he moved to a different place to help them sow corn ,its only 100000 acres and they have 14000 to sow in 14 days .This chap also has another 100000 acres in Montana
Their are alot of small holdings in usa and a sh!t load of farmwork done with horses , i fact an unbelievable amount of horses in American agg . It aint all big .
 

Andrew1983

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Black Isle
Father in law used to tell a story about about a neighbour who had an American farmer come to visit, he was standing in the yard an basically saying is this all ya got…. “It takes me x many hours to take my truck to this corner of the ranch” then another however many hours to get to this place an so on…. The neighbour replied with oh I remember when I used to have a pick up like that too
 
After BSE a delegation from the US came to Britain and were shown the cattle tracebility we had in place. Holding numbers, passports, birth books and numerous (often duplicated) records and assurance schemes.

Instead of the reaction which was expected, the Americans roared with laughter:
"That ain't farmin', that's gardenin'. :rolleyes:
 

BrianV

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Livestock Farmer
Son is doing the USA harvest this year ,he has been over there since mid March in South Dakota getting things ready .Yesterday he moved to a different place to help them sow corn ,its only 100000 acres and they have 14000 to sow in 14 days .This chap also has another 100000 acres in Montana
Wonder who will be selling expensive corn & oil onto the world market now Ukraine is fecked, wouldn't be the USA would it?
 

tractorsandcows

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Livestock Farmer
Father in law used to tell a story about about a neighbour who had an American farmer come to visit, he was standing in the yard an basically saying is this all ya got…. “It takes me x many hours to take my truck to this corner of the ranch” then another however many hours to get to this place an so on…. The neighbour replied with oh I remember when I used to have a pick up like that too
My father used to tell a tale about a person in our area who had been in canada and said that the fields there were so big that the combine only came around past the gate every thursday
 

Y Fan Wen

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N W Snowdonia
Neighbour went to Canada as a lad, in horse work days. He claimed that he would 'plow' out in the morning, have his bait time, and then back in the afternoon. Thats with a 4 horse, 2 furrow plow.
 
Son is doing the USA harvest this year ,he has been over there since mid March in South Dakota getting things ready .Yesterday he moved to a different place to help them sow corn ,its only 100000 acres and they have 14000 to sow in 14 days .This chap also has another 100000 acres in Montana

Lots of acres but what yield....

It’s like talking about turnover and profit.

The speed their combines go at says a lot about their low input low output vast average concept.

I believe their crop yields are far less than to the UK. Perhaps they need the acreage to make a living

Exactly!
 
Listen to the straight foward farming podcast , they also suffer with business buying to rewild , they also have thousands of us and the pay is reverent excep they have crop insurance ??
 

beardface

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East Yorkshire
Listen to the straight foward farming podcast , they also suffer with business buying to rewild , they also have thousands of us and the pay is reverent excep they have crop insurance ??

Biggest issue with crop insurance is the premium goes up every time you claim it. Boss reckoned many in states like texas were virtually bankrupt due to sky high insurance premiums, having claimed it every year for many years.
 

oil barron

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Location
Aberdeenshire
Lots of acres but what yield....

It’s like talking about turnover and profit.

The speed their combines go at says a lot about their low input low output vast average concept.



Exactly!
Depends. Dry land wheat would be a lot less than the UK, but then from Mid missouri down to Kentucky they will be double cropping beans after. Irrigated wheat in the desert will be huge yields.

Maize yields in america have increased a lot over the last 20 years while UK wheat has plateaued. In South Dakota they could be getting monster maize yields over 6 ton an acre in places close to the Minnesota border.
 

oil barron

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Aberdeenshire
Biggest issue with crop insurance is the premium goes up every time you claim it. Boss reckoned many in states like texas were virtually bankrupt due to sky high insurance premiums, having claimed it every year for many years.
West Texas and the panhandle has big water issues. You get farmers moving east out of there over past Witchita and over to Paris Area south of the red river will be ploughing up pasture and “farm it up” for a few years to get the insurance yields then farm the insurance or flip it on to unsuspecting investors based on the insurance yields.
 

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Man fined £300 for bonfire-related waste offences

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Written by William Kellett from Agriland

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A man has pleaded guilty at Newtownards Magistrates’ Court to waste offences relating to a bonfire next to the electrical sub-station on the Circular Road in Newtownards, Co. Down.

Gareth Gill (51) of Abbot’s Walk, Newtownards pleaded guilty to two charges under the Waste and Contaminated Land (Northern Ireland) Order 1997, for which he was fined £150 each and ordered to pay a £15 offender’s levy

On June 25, 2018, PSNI officers went to Gill’s yard, where they found a large amount of waste consisting of scrap wood, pallets, carpet and underlay.

Discussion with Northern Ireland Environment Agency (NIEA) officers confirmed the site...
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