Weaving sabre tine user thread

sjt01

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
North Norfolk
Standard tube compared to our new ones View attachment 953423View attachment 953424
I hear Weavings are discontinuing the standard tine and tube, we hope to get the remains of the stock of tubes. Are you able to supply tubes? Will they cope with beans? Really pleased with how the drill clears trash, and hope to keep it going for many years.
We will ask our milking machine installers if they have any stainless tube from parlours they are taking out, would be a good source.
 

Wombat

Member
BASIS
Location
East yorks
I hear Weavings are discontinuing the standard tine and tube, we hope to get the remains of the stock of tubes. Are you able to supply tubes? Will they cope with beans? Really pleased with how the drill clears trash, and hope to keep it going for many years.
We will ask our milking machine installers if they have any stainless tube from parlours they are taking out, would be a good source.

What are they going to offer instead?
 

sjt01

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
North Norfolk
Are we sure they aren’t just discontinuing the original tine and tube (using a 13mm bolt and locknut to hold the tube) and concentrating on the later one that uses the clips into the 3 slots in the tube?
Yes, we have the one with 13mm bolt, plenty of spare tines but short of tubes.
 

Duosig

New Member
Location
Norway
How much disturbance is there when drilling at 30-40mm in chopped straw? and how does it handle freshly cut oat straw? I now run a GD, but since most of my drilling is in chopped straw in the autumt and spring, i am considering switching to a sabre. I used to run a CO with metcalfes, and loved the trash capabilities and simplicity of the tine. Is the sabre as good a direct drill as the horsch was with metcalfes?
 

Old apprentice

Member
Arable Farmer
I hear Weavings are discontinuing the standard tine and tube, we hope to get the remains of the stock of tubes. Are you able to supply tubes? Will they cope with beans? Really pleased with how the drill clears trash, and hope to keep it going for many years.
We will ask our milking machine installers if they have any stainless tube from parlours they are taking out, would be a good source.


I am sure you could find the right size stainless steel tube look for stainless steel suppliers or a fabricator that uses ss steel .
 
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alomy75

Member
How much disturbance is there when drilling at 30-40mm in chopped straw? and how does it handle freshly cut oat straw? I now run a GD, but since most of my drilling is in chopped straw in the autumt and spring, i am considering switching to a sabre. I used to run a CO with metcalfes, and loved the trash capabilities and simplicity of the tine. Is the sabre as good a direct drill as the horsch was with metcalfes?
The actual ground engaging parts of a sabretine and metcalfe are basically identical; you’ve clearly got a lot more room in the CO though for trash. Metcalfe seed tube blasts the seed straight down behind the opener whereas the sabretine has a lip at the bottom.
 

ZXR17

Member
Location
South Dorset
I'm going to be drilling Osr into moled and low disturbance subsoiled stubble .
In part of the field that was only subsoiled I have the tines set in about two inches and the seed tubes at 80mm from tine bottom which seems about right .
Where the drill then passes over the moles the tines are going way deeper . Should I raise the seed tubes another 40 to 50mm to counter this ?
 

Tiptoe Ted

Member
Location
South East
Would anyone be able to help me out with a valuation of my 2017 6m Sabre Tine in good nick with a plastic hopper?
Done approx 1300ha.
Considering a change and would like a realistic idea of value before talking to salesmen!
Many thanks 👍
 

alomy75

Member
Would anyone be able to help me out with a valuation of my 2017 6m Sabre Tine in good nick with a plastic hopper?
Done approx 1300ha.
Considering a change and would like a realistic idea of value before talking to salesmen!
Many thanks 👍
What are you changing to? Complete guess if I saw one in a farm sale 15-18k? How much was it new?
 

Tiptoe Ted

Member
Location
South East
What are you changing to? Complete guess if I saw one in a farm sale 15-18k? How much was it new?
Thanks, was hoping for 20-25k but not really sure. I think Weaving had one similar earlier in the year so will give them a call as well.
Possibly changing to a Mzuri mainly as can go direct after maize and take compaction out but also like the seed depth control
 

TJ61

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
North Yorkshire
I am looking at moving from a system using a Trio followed by power harrow combi to a sabre tine, sometimes direct on to stubble and at other times following Trio cultivated land. My concern is that the cultivated land will not be level enough for the Sabre tine so a levelling cultivator will have to be used after the Trio. Any ideas on the best way to do this at low cost would be appreciated.
 

clbarclay

Member
Location
Worcestershire
Depending on your soils, you may find the Saber copes fairly well with the surface left by a Trio. I presume the trio is not leaving lots of clods and it more the ridged affect left by the packer you are concerned about?

I find with a lower disturbance tine drills without independent tine depth control, you just set the tines a bit deeper if necessary to make sure the bulk of the seed is in deep enough and then it comes down to how well the following harrow fills in the slots and covers the seed with the available tilth.
 

TJ61

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
North Yorkshire
Yes it is the ridged effect that I am mainly concerned about, there are areas of very heavy land that come up cloddy but they could be knocked down with a power harrow if too bad. I presume driving at a slight angle to the ridges will give the best result ?
 

clbarclay

Member
Location
Worcestershire
When cultivating I got into the habit of always driving at an angle to previous marks, mostly so I could see much more easily where I had been in the days before GPS steering. It does help avoid tines running in fresh air between ridges too and helps levels tramline ruts slightly.

I currently have zig zag harrows on the back of the tine drill though, to make sure seed slots are filled in well enough when direct drilling. If that wasn't enough on cultivated ground then they must be some extreme ridges, i.e. plough furrows or potato ridges, not press marks.
 

DieselRob

Member
BASE UK Member
Location
North Yorkshire
Yes it is the ridged effect that I am mainly concerned about, there are areas of very heavy land that come up cloddy but they could be knocked down with a power harrow if too bad. I presume driving at a slight angle to the ridges will give the best result ?
The ridged effect wouldn’t concern me at all, I use mine mainly direct but I have some to do after a pass with a carrier. Best advice would be to not keep looking at it after you’ve drilled it, emerged will be less even than you’re probably used to due to the fixed frame coulter arrangement but all the seed will come
 

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