Weed wiping questions

steveR

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Now obviously nobody would admit to using weed killers through a wiper, unless it was on the label, but there must be an awful lot of anecdotal evidence of others such products effectively, and at what strengths...

Without anyone recommending such use, which selective products have anyone heard of being used through a wiper, to kill nettles for example? I’ve always found glyphosate just burns the tops of those, even at a full 6L/ha rate, with rainwater and wetter.:(

TBH, Glypho is not really that effective on nettle, full stop. Unless it has been tweaked with 24D and called Kyleo... No idea how that would work in a wiper!!
 

steveR

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Mixed Farmer
I’m willing to bet that new toy is considerably dearer than your new toy, unless it’s hired in of course.;)

Yours looks a very tidy job.👍

I will claim a smidge of credit as the provider of the donor frame (at a odest sum) that was an old C Dax unit.. 🤣

@Classichay has made a very good job though, probably better than the original wiper surfaces from C Dax that had a shelf life measured in weeks...
 
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steveR

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Mixed Farmer
Now obviously nobody would admit to using weed killers through a wiper, unless it was on the label, but there must be an awful lot of anecdotal evidence of others such products effectively, and at what strengths...

Without anyone recommending such use, which selective products have anyone heard of being used through a wiper, to kill nettles for example? I’ve always found glyphosate just burns the tops of those, even at a full 6L/ha rate, with rainwater and wetter.:(

Grazon used to have a recommendation...

From BFF

My experience in Tasmania & NZ is that Clopyralid ( Dow Shield?) will kill what we know as Californian thistles (Cirsium arvense) probably the same as your creeping thistle. The plant must be actively growing to move the herbicide into the underground tank farm. Although it is not registered for wipers here (and probably not in the UK also) trials using 100mL/L plus 2.0mL/L of Pulse (a penetrant, Monsanto) gave good results when wiped before the seed heads burst. It is very important that the wiper not drip, coz there is anecdotal evidence that the herbicide will affect nearby susceptible plants, probably for at least a season, although the length of time is not clear#

I thought the concentration rate seemed low TBH.. But obviously, no use on nettles.

This link intrigued me.... not just Ragwort!!

 
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neilo

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Montgomeryshire
I was told they weren’t. I have PA1 2 and 6 and apparently there is a module that needs to be done in addition to PA2 tookeep right!

I wonder if it makes a difference which model of weed wiper it is? The Logic and the Chapman are basically boom sprayers, spraying onto a roller inside a hood....
 

Andy84

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I wonder if it makes a difference which model of weed wiper it is? The Logic and the Chapman are basically boom sprayers, spraying onto a roller inside a hood....

Its a Logic I have and they said I needed a seperate ticket! Bloody madness
 

neilo

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They were OK with PA1 and PA2, as that was what I had decades ago... As I have said here, WTF it needs another ticket, is mad.

How many decades ago? I did my tests at college, when they first came in (1988!). Being able to use a 6m trailed boom sprayer behind a quad bike qualified me to do everything then.👍
It was only later that the training industry realised they could make more money by splitting it into more modules, for slug Pelleting, etc.🤐

You and I may be deemed competent in using a weed wiper, whereas the young ‘uns need further training.
 

steveR

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Mixed Farmer
How many decades ago? I did my tests at college, when they first came in (1988!). Being able to use a 6m trailed boom sprayer behind a quad bike qualified me to do everything then.👍
It was only later that the training industry realised they could make more money by splitting it into more modules, for slug Pelleting, etc.🤐

You and I may be deemed competent in using a weed wiper, whereas the young ‘uns need further training.

You are but a bairn.... :)

I must dig out my original paperwork and see just what it says I was deemed to be covered for... And also see when I did the PA1 and 2 as well...

Pretty sure as you say, the course then covered use afterwards withweedwipers. I did do a PA4 for contracting purposes at a later date, but never bothered with a knapsack.
 

Y Fan Wen

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N W Snowdonia
Got to do my 'f' at some time in the future... But in all honesty, what can it cover?

No calibration required, just follow the manufacturers instructions for use of the machine and setting flow rate...
When I did my PA6 I did the injecting add on as 2 on the course were knotweed specialists.
Using an injector which is exactly like my 7-1 gun I pushed it through the length of pipe insulation, which was pretending to be a knotweed plant, squeezed the trigger and I had done the course!
 

Y Fan Wen

Member
Location
N W Snowdonia
Now obviously nobody would admit to using weed killers through a wiper, unless it was on the label, but there must be an awful lot of anecdotal evidence of others such products effectively, and at what strengths...

Without anyone recommending such use, which selective products have anyone heard of being used through a wiper, to kill nettles for example? I’ve always found glyphosate just burns the tops of those, even at a full 6L/ha rate, with rainwater and wetter.:(
Using my usual 40:1 rate with glypho in my Rotowiper I find the nettle kill is much better than thistles and rushes, more leaf area.
 

steveR

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Mixed Farmer
When I did my PA6 I did the injecting add on as 2 on the course were knotweed specialists.
Using an injector which is exactly like my 7-1 gun I pushed it through the length of pipe insulation, which was pretending to be a knotweed plant, squeezed the trigger and I had done the course!

And that will have cost the grand sum of..... Bonkers! :)
Using my usual 40:1 rate with glypho in my Rotowiper I find the nettle kill is much better than thistles and rushes, more leaf area.

I wonder if it is one of those instances where too much active is detrimental to actual long term control? As in the top goes quickly, but the herbicide does not translocate down??
 

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