Weed wiping questions

Y Fan Wen

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Location
N W Snowdonia
I wonder if it is one of those instances where too much active is detrimental to actual long term control? As in the top goes quickly, but the herbicide does not translocate down??
That would be my opinion. I have read that you should not use glypho any stronger than 1 part glypho to 2 parts water and that was for painting stumps. Injecting uses it neat as presumably it dilutes down with the sap.
The manual on my Rotowiper recommended 20:1 which I used for the first couple of seasons before changing to 40:1 which I have used since. I keep the roller very wet so it drips about 10 seconds after I stop. If I have to stop I do so in the thickest clump of whatever I'm wiping.
Drips are not like spray mist, a drip only hits one or two leaves on the way down and cannot be found after a few days.
As for wheel marks, I've never found any. I have seen them on a neighbours field where the contractor started at the gate and then drove back across the worked area after finishing. Couldn't see them after a fortnight tho'.
If I'm working where there are anthills then the roller does hit the top of them and they go grey for a few weeks. I'm not sure if that's good or bad!
 

steveR

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Mixed Farmer
That would be my opinion. I have read that you should not use glypho any stronger than 1 part glypho to 2 parts water and that was for painting stumps. Injecting uses it neat as presumably it dilutes down with the sap.
The manual on my Rotowiper recommended 20:1 which I used for the first couple of seasons before changing to 40:1 which I have used since. I keep the roller very wet so it drips about 10 seconds after I stop. If I have to stop I do so in the thickest clump of whatever I'm wiping.
Drips are not like spray mist, a drip only hits one or two leaves on the way down and cannot be found after a few days.
As for wheel marks, I've never found any. I have seen them on a neighbours field where the contractor started at the gate and then drove back across the worked area after finishing. Couldn't see them after a fortnight tho'.
If I'm working where there are anthills then the roller does hit the top of them and they go grey for a few weeks. I'm not sure if that's good or bad!

Edlington recommends 50-50.... But that is a pad wick machine and uses a hydrostat to regulate solution flow very accurately. No drips.
 

Y Fan Wen

Member
Location
N W Snowdonia
Edlington recommends 50-50.... But that is a pad wick machine and uses a hydrostat to regulate solution flow very accurately. No drips.
I have seen on another thread people talking about 1:1 and 2 and 3:1 when using wipers which is about as far removed from my 40:1 as is possible to be. If my rate works, which it does, I don't see why one would use anything stronger. Maybe I see little collateral damage for that reason.
 

steveR

Member
Mixed Farmer
Is it a completely daft idea to apply glyphosate on rushes with a knapsack? Not keen on mcpa

Well the Contractor working for the Solar Farm company up until this year used a quad and lance to apply Roundup, he also sprayed out great chunks of pasture... I have sprayed rushes with a tight nozzle, and accepted the loss of a bit of grass around the clump.

Can leave stock in the field too...
 
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Nae bother

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Location
Aberdeenshire
Which weed wiper would be the best one to buy?is buying a second hand one a waste of time?got a peat moss with plenty rushes with plenty grass,sprayed before with mcpa with tractor sprayer but it's wet and when you get stuck you're proper stuck.
 

neilo

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Montgomeryshire
Which weed wiper would be the best one to buy?is buying a second hand one a waste of time?got a peat moss with plenty rushes with plenty grass,sprayed before with mcpa with tractor sprayer but it's wet and when you get stuck you're proper stuck.

Chapman make a very similar design to the Logic, with a contra-rotating brush (or carpet roller). It’s well built but considerably cheaper.


I bought one on the basis of price, and that the roller is driven by a 12v motor, rather than ground driven, so it rotates at the same speed however fast you drive, or when you stop at gateways, reducing dripping & flicking. It’s an improvement over the Logic design imo.

Tried it for the first time yesterday, so waiting to see how effective the method is....
 

steveR

Member
Mixed Farmer
Chapman make a very similar design to the Logic, with a contra-rotating brush (or carpet roller). It’s well built but considerably cheaper.


I bought one on the basis of price, and that the roller is driven by a 12v motor, rather than ground driven, so it rotates at the same speed however fast you drive, or when you stop at gateways, reducing dripping & flicking. It’s an improvement over the Logic design imo.

Tried it for the first time yesterday, so waiting to see how effective the method is....

Nice to be able to apply herbicide and not worry about the wind too... but did you miss the storms?
 

mghley

Member
Location
Derbyshire
Which weed wiper would be the best one to buy?is buying a second hand one a waste of time?got a peat moss with plenty rushes with plenty grass,sprayed before with mcpa with tractor sprayer but it's wet and when you get stuck you're proper stuck.
My nephew has a Logic weed wiper which I think he is looking to sell, purchased a couple of years ago and done next to nothing as not needed for job purchased for.
 

Y Fan Wen

Member
Location
N W Snowdonia
I have seen on another thread people talking about 1:1 and 2 and 3:1 when using wipers which is about as far removed from my 40:1 as is possible to be. If my rate works, which it does, I don't see why one would use anything stronger. Maybe I see little collateral damage for that reason.
I can reply to my own message now I have had the PA2f instruction. The 1:1, 1:2, 1:3 ratios are for wick wipers where there are no moving parts.
'New Generation' wipers (says on the label) should use 1:10, 1:20 etc.. These are rotating ones with brush or carpet mechanism.
That clears that up.
 

daithi

Member
I have just bought myself a Chapman weed wiper, I went out today to do some nettles and rushes. The problem with the clumps of nettles is there is too much grass growing through them and I don't want to kill it with glyphosate. So does any one put MCPA, Starane or forefront through their wiper and at what rate?.
Thanks
 
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