welding gas

[biggles]

Have just about emptied my BOC bottle of argoshield, which has lasted nearly 3 years, unfortunately I cant get this refilled without an account now, which seems expensive for my light use. the garage down the road sells SGS gas which is pay a one off fee of £85 rental and £69.60 per refill for a 20l bottle, does anybody else use these and does that sound a fair price? also how big is a 20l compared to a full size "w" BOC ? cheers

 

[Farmer_Joe]

i just got hobby weld locally, they have dealers all over, 90 for bottle and refill is similar i think thats 20l

 

[MrNoo]

20l is bugger all compared to the proper BOC bottles but then if it lasted you 3yrs it may suffice.

 

[biggles]

i just got hobby weld locally, they have dealers all over, 90 for bottle and refill is similar i think thats 20l

Probably all the same crowd just different name on the bottle, cant be that many folks manufacturing the gas can they?

 

[biggles]

20l is bugger all compared to the proper BOC bottles but then if it lasted you 3yrs it may suffice.

How many litres is a big BOC? cant be much bigger can they, just looking at my BOC and its a lot smaller diameter than my 20l oil drums, and it must be thick steel because its bloody heavy when empty, although it is a lot taller, would it be as big as 50L maybe? or not?

 

[Cowcalf]

How many litres is a big BOC? cant be much bigger can they, just looking at my BOC and its a lot smaller diameter than my 20l oil drums, and it must be thick steel because its bloody heavy when empty, although it is a lot taller, would it be as big as 50L maybe? or not?

cannot just take size pressure inside needs also be accounted for

 

[Nearly]

google 'volkzone deal'
and have a look on mig-welding.co.uk forum at what others have done.

 

[ACEngineering]

Have just about emptied my BOC bottle of argoshield, which has lasted nearly 3 years, unfortunately I cant get this refilled without an account now, which seems expensive for my light use. the garage down the road sells SGS gas which is pay a one off fee of £85 rental and £69.60 per refill for a 20l bottle, does anybody else use these and does that sound a fair price? also how big is a 20l compared to a full size "w" BOC ? cheers

As said you can get the volkszone deal on a Y sized bottle from BOC, easy half the normal costs and a Y size is the next size down from a Big full size W so it a decent size.

 

[milkloss]

How many litres is a big BOC? cant be much bigger can they, just looking at my BOC and its a lot smaller diameter than my 20l oil drums, and it must be thick steel because its bloody heavy when empty, although it is a lot taller, would it be as big as 50L maybe? or not?

I think you’ll find BOC a much higher pressure as well as larger. Some strong googling reveals the cubic meters of gas in a cylinder.

 

[davidroberts30]

More than 2 bottles a year go volkzone
Less than 2 go rent free
More than 6 on volkzone go full rental

 

[biggles]

cheers Lads, from what I can find out a 20l has approx. 5 cube of gas where as a BOC "W" has about 11.5, so based on current usage a rent free bottle should last me a year or so, the deposit is fully refundable should it not work out so im taking the plunge with SGS. The BOC was filled to 230bar and SGS say 200bar, so will see when regulator is fitted. cheers

 

[davidroberts30]

More than 2 bottles a year go volkzone
Less than 2 go rent free
More than 6 on volkzone go full rental

all these are based on a size "y"

 

[Farmer_Joe]

cheers Lads, from what I can find out a 20l has approx. 5 cube of gas where as a BOC "W" has about 11.5, so based on current usage a rent free bottle should last me a year or so, the deposit is fully refundable should it not work out so im taking the plunge with SGS. The BOC was filled to 230bar and SGS say 200bar, so will see when regulator is fitted. cheers

mines 230 bar when regs on but not sure how 20l compares to you bottle size, i got it wrong deposit is 110, but the refill is 65 plus vat i think

taken from webiste: 20l, 230 bar, 5.09m3

 

[Dman2]

I use SGS gas
Lasts about a year for me, which works out cheaper than bottle rental

 

[B R C]

Just gone to 20l oxygen with sgs as I don't use oxy propane much but have to have it. Have stuck with boc W for argon as use 2/3 year.

 

[rob h]

We have a tig welder that doesn’t have a lot of work when we got it a couple of years back it worked out cheapest with a hobby weld ultra bottle lasts about a year

 

[colhonk]

My big bottle of argoshield is nearly empty.It will go back toBOC and never come back. got one of them little bottles from now on.

 

[Blue.]

Have just about emptied my BOC bottle of argoshield, which has lasted nearly 3 years, unfortunately I cant get this refilled without an account now, which seems expensive for my light use. the garage down the road sells SGS gas which is pay a one off fee of £85 rental and £69.60 per refill for a 20l bottle, does anybody else use these and does that sound a fair price? also how big is a 20l compared to a full size "w" BOC ? cheers

Do you know anyone with the same sized bottle on a boc account?

As always there is a way.

 

[sodbuster2]

Do you know anyone with the same sized bottle on a boc account?

As always there is a way.

Bottles are barcoded now so beware

 

[sodbuster2]

Using one BOC argoshield approx per year i changed to SGS as the more economic option too