Well bugger me !

David.

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
J11 M40
Well bugger indeed; I was just thinking of all the farmers in the Country, and she chose me?....

But seriously, I think it is a nice gesture. It may be alright for me, Jack, but somebody somewhere may be on the ragged edge, and the reassurance and kind words might have been welcome.
 
Location
Devon
I have just had a pre- recorded message off Minette Blatters re-assuring me that the NFU are doing all they can to support the farming industry .....but she didn't say what !!
So the question .....What could they be doing ?

Pushing the following things.

Requirement for pre movement testing of cattle to be suspended.

Extending the time allowed for markets to record with BCMS cattle movements.

Driver hours for lorry drivers delivering/ hauling for farms to be relaxed.

Suspending all the rules/regs/ paperwork that stop farmers hauling neighbouring farms stock to market/ slaughter etc unless the farmer hauling has all the paperwork/ tickets etc.

Using the BPS banking system to put an extra payment of say half a farms normal BPS payment into all farmers accounts so they can cover any problems with cashflow if they cant get crops planted/ animals sold etc due to any problems with supply's/ slaughter lines etc being shut down for several weeks.

Stopping any farm inspections of any reason for the duration of this crisis.

Push very hard to keep the vital livestock markets in operation.

If the postal system gets scrapped then suspending the requirement for calves to have passports when they are sold ( providing they have been registered )

Im sure there are many more things but these are just a few ideas..
 

kiwi pom

Member
Location
canterbury NZ
Pushing the following things.

Requirement for pre movement testing of cattle to be suspended.

Extending the time allowed for markets to record with BCMS cattle movements.

Driver hours for lorry drivers delivering/ hauling for farms to be relaxed.

Suspending all the rules/regs/ paperwork that stop farmers hauling neighbouring farms stock to market/ slaughter etc unless the farmer hauling has all the paperwork/ tickets etc.

Using the BPS banking system to put an extra payment of say half a farms normal BPS payment into all farmers accounts so they can cover any problems with cashflow if they cant get crops planted/ animals sold etc due to any problems with supply's/ slaughter lines etc being shut down for several weeks.

Stopping any farm inspections of any reason for the duration of this crisis.

Push very hard to keep the vital livestock markets in operation.

If the postal system gets scrapped then suspending the requirement for calves to have passports when they are sold ( providing they have been registered )

Im sure there are many more things but these are just a few ideas..


Well done for actually putting up a list of things you'd like to see instead of sla**ing them off (i assume you're a member?)
Question do you think the virus has affected your business enough to get a financial hand out from the government at this stage?

If i was a member I'd like to see them trying to support all the food processors, to help keep the supply chain going as well.
 
Location
Devon
Well done for actually putting up a list of things you'd like to see instead of sla**ing them off (i assume you're a member?)
Question do you think the virus has affected your business enough to get a financial hand out from the government at this stage?

If i was a member I'd like to see them trying to support all the food processors, to help keep the supply chain going as well.

Im not a member anymore.

But I think the current situation is so serious that differences need to be put aside by everyone for the duration and everyone including the likes of the NFU need to work with everyone be that member or not.

No it hasn't been affected anywhere near enough to need support but the problem is that if they have a full scale lock down of the country for anymore than 2/3 weeks then the supply lines to farms/ proccessors etc will fall apart very quickly and stop them from operating.

The more this government meddles with anything the worse they make it.
 

kiwi pom

Member
Location
canterbury NZ
Im not a member anymore.

But I think the current situation is so serious that differences need to be put aside by everyone for the duration and everyone including the likes of the NFU need to work with everyone be that member or not.

No it hasn't been affected anywhere near enough to need support but the problem is that if they have a full scale lock down of the country for anymore than 2/3 weeks then the supply lines to farms/ proccessors etc will fall apart very quickly and stop them from operating.

The more this government meddles with anything the worse they make it.

I agree everyone needs to work together now.
Would a lock down include those involved in the supply chain?

We're nowhere near as bad here (yet) our borders are now completely closed to non residents but the PM was keen to point out that freight will continue to move in and out by sea and air.
If we went into some kind of lock down I think anyone involved in food production would be a key worker?
Haven't read all the threads on here so apologies if this has been discussed.
 

solo

Member
Location
worcestershire
She’s been very busy tonight?
The call has certainly made the organisation more personable, rather than just dealing with the local office once a year for the insurance review. I do think she is sincere in trying to improve things for producers. In the current times the message is, there is help available to deal with issues should we need it, and the organisation is striving to work for the benefit of producers.?
 
Location
Devon
I agree everyone needs to work together now.
Would a lock down include those involved in the supply chain?

We're nowhere near as bad here (yet) our borders are now completely closed to non residents but the PM was keen to point out that freight will continue to move in and out by sea and air.
If we went into some kind of lock down I think anyone involved in food production would be a key worker?
Haven't read all the threads on here so apologies if this has been discussed.

Problem is its supply's for the supply chain, for example you have a borehole, the thing breaks down, you need parts/ engineer to fix it, if he isn't on the approved list he cant come out, and if he can come out, how many weeks will be able to get his parts for? his van breaks down, cant get it repaired because the garage has been forced to shut down...

Nearly every job relies on another job, where do you draw the line?

2/3 week shut down is one thing but any shut down will be at least 3/4 months, parts etc will just dry up..

In France another poster said this morning that even the Ag dealers repair shops are not really allowed to open, so what happens when we get into much delayed field work due to the bad weather since last autumn and your tractor/ machine breaks down and you cant get it repaired? 2 week lock down you would just have to wait but you cannot wait 3/ 4 months to get up and running again..

And that's if you can get the parts needed which with the order it when you break down system that most tractor company's parts depts now run means that getting them for long would be very unlikely after a 2/3 weeks full on lockdown.
 

beardface

Member
Location
East Yorkshire
Problem is its supply's for the supply chain, for example you have a borehole, the thing breaks down, you need parts/ engineer to fix it, if he isn't on the approved list he cant come out, and if he can come out, how many weeks will be able to get his parts for? his van breaks down, cant get it repaired because the garage has been forced to shut down...

Nearly every job relies on another job, where do you draw the line?

2/3 week shut down is one thing but any shut down will be at least 3/4 months, parts etc will just dry up..

In France another poster said this morning that even the Ag dealers repair shops are not really allowed to open, so what happens when we get into much delayed field work due to the bad weather since last autumn and your tractor/ machine breaks down and you cant get it repaired? 2 week lock down you would just have to wait but you cannot wait 3/ 4 months to get up and running again..

And that's if you can get the parts needed which with the order it when you break down system that most tractor company's parts depts now run means that getting them for long would be very unlikely after a 2/3 weeks full on lockdown.

Hence why the government is strongly rejecting the desires of the media to follow other European countries right now. Ultimately the country still needs to operate even if people are getting sick or sadly dying otherwise the other side (when we get there) could be an even bigger clusterf*** than the virus was.
 
Location
Devon
Hence why the government is strongly rejecting the desires of the media to follow other European countries right now. Ultimately the country still needs to operate even if people are getting sick or sadly dying otherwise the other side (when we get there) could be an even bigger clusterf*** than the virus was.

The above is what more and more people are thinking both on the street and on SM everyday, last week most of them were calling for a full on lockdown but now many are realising just what that really means and the damage it will do when they end up with no jobs.

The media are the problem, they are creating mass hysteria on purpose as they want a story to sell, trouble is when the government caves in and does what the media are calling for them to do the media then start calling for even tighter controls etc and they are doing this in their quest for another big story on the issue..
 

melted welly

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
DD9.
I have just had a pre- recorded message off Minette Blatters re-assuring me that the NFU are doing all they can to support the farming industry .....but she didn't say what !!
So the question .....What could they be doing ?

fresh produce lifted today, be thru the supply chain and sold within what, 48, 72hrs and yet it takes the retailers up to 100 days to pay us.

that needs to be addressed.
 

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