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Pasty

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Devon
Hope you are safely in Kenya at present or the "NHS are all angels" mob will be heading out to burn your house down. Some NHS staff have had a fairly awful time of Covid sweating in their PPE, some others however have done F all, one of our neighbours is a nurse in a clinic at the local hospital and didn't leave home for 4 months.
Doesn't surprise me. A mate of mine is trying to get a letter ref a fairly serious insurance claim and the feckers are all in Follaton house doing jabs at £12 a go. 2 weeks for a call back. f**k the NHS
 

Pasty

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Location
Devon
Lets be honest, If Wetherspoons went out of business tomorrow it would not bother me a jot. And that bloke that owns Sports direct, he is a total shark when it comes to employing people. I've no sympathy for employers who act like this.
The thing is (aside from some saying that all Brexit voters are the same people with the same opinions), these firms want to take on everyone on a self employed basis or zero hours or whatever and then cry when it all goes wrong. Well, if you are trying to kill off the local pubs and run a cheap trade then you are heading for a car crash. Tough. There will be another chancer after you.
 

Lowland1

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Mixed Farmer
Hope you are safely in Kenya at present or the "NHS are all angels" mob will be heading out to burn your house down. Some NHS staff have had a fairly awful time of Covid sweating in their PPE, some others however have done F all, one of our neighbours is a nurse in a clinic at the local hospital and didn't leave home for 4 months.
Yes safe here in Kenya but I have two two sister in laws a doctor and a ward manager with the NHS and a first cousin who runs a University health clinic so I have an idea how hard some have worked or not during the pandemic. When my Dad had a heart attack in 2019 the trauma care was excellent but aftercare was rubbish but what I noticed was the quality of the overseas staff v the UK staff for the overseas staff nothing was too much trouble for the British staff doing nothing was too much trouble.
 
Yes safe here in Kenya but I have two two sister in laws a doctor and a ward manager with the NHS and a first cousin who runs a University health clinic so I have an idea how hard some have worked or not during the pandemic. When my Dad had a heart attack in 2019 the trauma care was excellent but aftercare was rubbish but what I noticed was the quality of the overseas staff v the UK staff for the overseas staff nothing was too much trouble for the British staff doing nothing was too much trouble.
There’s a vast difference in the quality of nhs staff and from my observations can’t be split on ethnicity either, I’ve seen excellent British staff and completely useless overseas staff..........and vice versa
 

Lowland1

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Mixed Farmer
There’s a vast difference in the quality of nhs staff and from my observations can’t be split on ethnicity either, I’ve seen excellent British staff and completely useless overseas staff..........and vice versa
A friend of ours runs a big veg operation in the UK he says the quality of overseas labour has declined over the years. Originally he would get Polish university students making money to pay for their fees so basically future doctors and lawyers now it’s Rumanian gypsies. It’s like my daughter waitressing it’s fun because you know that it’s not your future but if it was all the work you are able to get and do and now the Government is paying for you to stay home it’s going to take a lot to encourage you to go back to work add in xenophobia border control and no one will be keen to come from Europe on the off chance of picking up a shift or two.
On Radio 4 they were saying there were 118,000 vacancies or infilled jobs in hospitality.
 

oil barron

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Location
Aberdeenshire
A friend of ours runs a big veg operation in the UK he says the quality of overseas labour has declined over the years. Originally he would get Polish university students making money to pay for their fees so basically future doctors and lawyers now it’s Rumanian gypsies. It’s like my daughter waitressing it’s fun because you know that it’s not your future but if it was all the work you are able to get and do and now the Government is paying for you to stay home it’s going to take a lot to encourage you to go back to work add in xenophobia border control and no one will be keen to come from Europe on the off chance of picking up a shift or two.
On Radio 4 they were saying there were 118,000 vacancies or infilled jobs in hospitality.
And Rishi still thinks it’s a good idea to pay Furlough!?
 

Bongodog

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It's impossible to get rid of bad staff in the NHS, as in many other areas of the public sector, I am lead to believe.
One bad apple....
The public sector has its own rule book, only one rule "protect you own and screw the mugs who pay us"
A good example comes from a friend who was chairman of the governors at a local secondary school, most of the teachers went on strike for a day, he assumed they would be deducted a days pay - wrong !!. He was informed that they would receive their normal monthy salary as it was too difficult to make a deduction.
 

JCMaloney

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LE9 2JG
Going back a few years I worked at a catering butchers in Essex.
We were skilled staff on around £12 an hour days, £15 an hour for nights. The night shift was "job & knock" started at 6.00pm then, once everything was done clean down, stock check, prep for next day and gone by roughly 2.30-3.00am.
Then the owners started to employ Portuguese lads who lived on-site but only got £9 an hour on nights.
So they started to slow the line down ......... to get more hours in, those of us who were used to knocking off sharp ended up getting "stuck" at work until 6 or 7am.
Didn`t bother us too much but nailed the margins for the owners so they started letting folk go...... the skilled ones and they were replaced with more cheap labour........... job was still slowed down & less efficient!
 
Doesn't surprise me. A mate of mine is trying to get a letter ref a fairly serious insurance claim and the feckers are all in Follaton house doing jabs at £12 a go. 2 weeks for a call back. fudge the NHS

This is the truth of it. It made absolutely no sense for GP practices to get involved in the vaccination effort. I defy anyone who thinks otherwise. GP practices are there to provide care at a range of levels and they are desperately needed by people of all walks of life. Some people, particularly the elderly are on multiple medications and other people have chronic and long term illnesses that need to be managed correctly. GP surgeries deal with extremely important case loads and they should have been maintained throughout this fudging pandemic. Why oh why would you want legions of people coming to a surgery/clinic and using the car park etc just to get jabbed in the arm? It is nonsensical. People should have been vaccinated in tents or buildings in places where lots of car parking was available. Your average GP surgery has a car park barely large enough to swing a cat in.

The truth of the matter is that GPs got in on the deal because it was a very sweet and pain free way to obtain money. You don't need a lot of facilities or highly trained staff and it can be done extremely rapidly.
 
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Yes safe here in Kenya but I have two two sister in laws a doctor and a ward manager with the NHS and a first cousin who runs a University health clinic so I have an idea how hard some have worked or not during the pandemic. When my Dad had a heart attack in 2019 the trauma care was excellent but aftercare was rubbish but what I noticed was the quality of the overseas staff v the UK staff for the overseas staff nothing was too much trouble for the British staff doing nothing was too much trouble.

I am yet to meet an overseas nurse or healthcare worker who I could possibly even begin to describe as lazy. They are very swift and efficient in how they do things too. People working in healthcare in India, in particular, will tell you how hard it is to work in that country. Any nurse or doctor who trained and worked in India originally will have known serious graft I can tell you.
 

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