Off topic .Remember I am talking 35 years ago, when a TW30 was a new tractor!
When Velcourt took over running Stowell Park they did the drilling with two Case 1455 pulling Amazone Combi drills.
Off topic .Remember I am talking 35 years ago, when a TW30 was a new tractor!
If you leave the muck on the top and direct drill, is not too strong for the young plants coming through?
Spot onI’ve not read through the replies but my take on it would be this -
Mixed farming is just farming a mixture of different types of animal / crop etc, grass and arable ...... it can still be done destructively and badly for the soil / natural world.
Regenerative farming, if done well, should both provide profit and also do so in a way which helps to regenerate the soil, it’s fertility and the natural biodiversity of the farm.
In my humble opinion that is virtually the same as what was subconsciously trying to achieve with traditional mixed farming, but as @Bucks Boy says, it is now called “Regenerative Farming” so one is being politically correct.I’ve not read through the replies but my take on it would be this -
Mixed farming is just farming a mixture of different types of animal / crop etc, grass and arable ...... it can still be done destructively and badly for the soil / natural world.
Regenerative farming, if done well, should both provide profit and also do so in a way which helps to regenerate the soil, it’s fertility and the natural biodiversity of the farm.
Meanwhile world stocks of grain and oilseeds are on a knife edge.!!!!We are where we are and we're not going to go all the way back to the UK being a part wooded, part flooded part grazed wilderness.
That's presumably where complete regeneration would lead us. "Regen ag" is a step or steps in that general direction.
Do you mean that concern for soil health is being self righteous and farming can only be done properly if it's properly destructive?Meanwhile world stocks of grain and oilseeds are on a knife edge.!!!!
In times of plenty we can all try and be self righteous, but when up against the wall survival instinct will kick in.
We might not be there just yet but not far off.
i prefer to spread it fresh before the N goes out of it?Why do you have to bury it ,
Let it rot as compost and spread it on top
Then it uses avaliable N to break it down in the soil.i prefer to spread it fresh before the N goes out of it?
depends how black it is?Then it uses avaliable N to break it down in the soil.
Swings and roundabouts.
Perhaps some ..... but I think you miss my point. Just because you farm a mixture of crops and animals doesn’t mean that you are doing anything to regenerate the ground. You could be banging bagged fert on, raping the ground, set stocking with sheep, whacking loads of bought in cake into them etc etc.In my humble opinion that is virtually the same as what was subconsciously trying to achieve with traditional mixed farming, but as @Bucks Boy says, it is now called “Regenerative Farming” so one is being politically correct.
So I have a field split into 4, DD, min till, max till, plough. The brome and BG in the DD is so bad it may force me to glypho the crop. The min till is not as bad, the maxitill is okay, meanwhile the ploughed section is almost weed free. When a spring SU is £45ha or whatever I can do a lot of ploughing for that. Tell me which is sustainable? I must admit the field is in continuous wheat, but last year's weed burden was very acceptable.Interesting comment.
The land around our house is contract farmed by Velcourt. The estate owner/ custodian told me he had a job covincing the Vecourt manager last autumn , that he wanted his wheat and osr D/D rather than Top Downed, rolled , drilled then rolled.
In the end the estate owner got his way and the crops D/D with a Horsch drill look superb.
I think you’re getting confused with rewilding. My version of regen ag, is profitable, relatively intense and output focused.We are where we are and we're not going to go all the way back to the UK being a part wooded, part flooded part grazed wilderness.
That's presumably where complete regeneration would lead us. "Regen ag" is a step or steps in that general direction.
I think a state of restored wilderness is the closest you will get to total regeneration.I think you’re getting confused with rewilding. My version of regen ag, is profitable, relatively intense and output focused.
What's the difference?Is regenerative farming just the pathway to sustainable farming?
The other word used in regen thinking is holistic.So I have a field split into 4, DD, min till, max till, plough. The brome and BG in the DD is so bad it may force me to glypho the crop. The min till is not as bad, the maxitill is okay, meanwhile the ploughed section is almost weed free. When a spring SU is £45ha or whatever I can do a lot of ploughing for that. Tell me which is sustainable? I must admit the field is in continuous wheat, but last year's weed burden was very acceptable.