What are the reasons for you crossbreeding ?

[Dead Rabbits]

In other countries the '''Golden cross" seem more popular. This is Ho X Red X Je.

It's worth following Drumgoon dairy on FB, it's an Irish man who started with 20 cows in 1982 then gradually built up to 200ac which he sold in 2006 and emigrated to South Dakota and now milks 4500 golden cross cows.

I’ve been by his place. Cold as hell up there in winter.

 

[Dead Rabbits]

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Apparently a 106 cow rotary for brown cows is the same diameter as a 100 cow black and white.

 

[Dead Rabbits]

Housed. 12000 litres plus.

It's forecast minus 35 in that area tonight with wind chill down to minus 50.

There's a good quote from his somewhere about how he made enough money on the high milk prices in 2014 to fund the entire build of a 3000 cow unit from cashflow.

Assuming around 2000 cows in 2014 at $29/cwt he would have been grossing about £14million. Figure a $17 cwt cop and he had some cash to play with.

With crosses and the demand for components in that area it was likely higher.

 

[Jamer]

I’ve been by his place. Cold as hell up there in winter.

Brother lives your side of the pond. We asked him a few years ago when S Dakota was promoting itself in the Farmers Weekly what is it like? "There's Mount Rushmore and thats about it'" was a summary of the reply.

 

[Cows 'n grass]

I’ve been by his place. Cold as hell up there in winter.

Certainly looks a bit cool today

 

[buffalo_soldier]

Certainly looks a bit cool today
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Blimey, thats cold. I bet he dosen't get vegans stood on his lane going boo.

 

[Beef farmer]

Blimey, thats cold. I bet he dosen't get vegans stood on his lane going boo.

Bet karl is still milking topless

 

[Cows 'n grass]

Bet karl is still milking topless

Yeah but he's a real man.

I had to go back to wearing long trousers for a while last spring. This winter Ive still been in short sleeves a lot of the time .

 

[lazy farmer]

So are you largely using LIC crossbred bulls now?

Are the Irish black and whites a bigger animal than the NZ ones?

I have quite a lot in calf to Irish HF at the moment and can't decide what to buy for this year.

This yr we will be mostly using lic- top notch(fr) lynbrook krypton (j8f7a1) and Arkansas beaut(f9j7) sexed

The Irish seem to look after themselves rather than me.

 

[Beef farmer]

This yr we will be mostly using lic- top notch(fr) lynbrook krypton (j8f7a1) and Arkansas beaut(f9j7) sexed

The Irish seem to look after themselves rather than me.

Typical Irish

 

[lazy farmer]

Typical Irish

 

[Cows 'n grass]

This yr we will be mostly using lic- top notch(fr) lynbrook krypton (j8f7a1) and Arkansas beaut(f9j7) sexed

The Irish seem to look after themselves rather than me.

As in fat fresians that give bugger all milk? My concern with the Irish was that they might be a bit holsteiny and not be able to look after themselves.

I'm trying a couple of Irish as 4m sexed and then Misty (J) and Cairo (F) from LIC

 

[mixed farm]

Which Irish bulls are you using?

 

[Cows 'n grass]

Which Irish bulls are you using?

Cogent sell eurogene bulls. Probably using Absolute, Panther, High and black lightning.

 

[mixed farm]

Black lightning has very impressive Irish figures.

 

[Homesy]

Cogent sell eurogene bulls. Probably using Absolute, Panther, High and black lightning.

At -1.43 chest width and -2.77 rump width, -0.49 overall mammary, I'm curious to know why you would use Lightning on your Jerseys. Do you just select on EBI ?

 

[Beef farmer]

Sound like power rangers

 

[Cows 'n grass]

At -1.43 chest width and -2.77 rump width, -0.49 overall mammary, I'm curious to know why you would use Lightning on your Jerseys. Do you just select on EBI ?

I think they are measured on a Holstein base so all the stature, chest width, rump width etc are almost bound to be negative.

One of the main things that puts me off the Irish bulls I the lack of type information available.

My selection of four Irish bulls is only going to total 80 straws out of 500 dairy straws.

 

[Cows 'n grass]

I've just had a look at the ICBF website and I might drop black lightning from the mix. Might be a bit too holsteiny.

 

[Headless chicken]

No i think he has a couple of herringbones. Ive never heard of a 106 point, Kinnard Farms in Wisconsin have 8000 in a single cross vent shed milked through a 100 point.

2 x herringbone parlours. One for fresh and open one for stale I believe