What are YOU doing to mitigate against Climate Change?

Doing your bit

  • Yes, I am doing everything I can

    Votes: 8 4.3%
  • Yes, I have changed a few things

    Votes: 45 24.2%
  • Yes but very minor

    Votes: 49 26.3%
  • Changed nothing

    Votes: 77 41.4%
  • No, I have made it a bit worse

    Votes: 5 2.7%
  • No, I have changed a lot

    Votes: 2 1.1%

  • Total voters
    186

DaveGrohl

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Cumbria
You thingk aircon is common in uk cities? Your having a laugh. I’ll put it differently. A disproportionate amount of people will die In cities during a elongated heat wave.
Why was I meaning UK cities? I was merely making a simple maths point. No matter, you argue with yourself, I'm out.
 

delilah

Member
Eat local, drink local, compost, recycle, don't buy tat, do buy renewable energy, logs, rainwater harvesting, use train wherever practicable, no passport, have always stuck to same model of van (and tractor) to facilitate cannibalism, wear clothes till OH throws them out, vote Green. Just the usual farmer sh!t really, other than the voting Green bit.
 

br jones

Member
No ... Honest.

I am thinking of semi retiring within the next 12 months and always promised myself a nice SUV but as I am not sure of the morality of mining lithium & cobalt to make the batteries nor whether the national grid has capacity, it will be petrol (or diesel) and fast

As for the farm, well that is where it is and until we have the incentive to change, I suspect we will keep on

Having said that, I am not adverse to hosting some beaver as we already have otters & the odd bittern dropping in
or mining the seabed for elements for battery production
 
Reducing replacement rates
Replacing fertiliser use with strategic umbilical and compost.
Growing more clover
Trying out more diverse swards which if we can get them to grow on our soil will mean more DM grown on the platform so less to buy in
LED lights
Variable speed pumps in the parlour
Make our own electric when the suns out
Sexed semen
Selling on our empties to other farms
You maybe doing all of these already of course
 
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Lincsman

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
Here’s a plan
Govt GIVE every person in the U.K. 2 tree whips/saplings to plant
They must plant them and must keep a visual record of looking after them ( ie photos of trees growing)
If they don’t produce the evidence of the nurtured trees at “signing on” day, - they get reduced dole Or sanctioned

those with gardens or space should plant the trees in their own gardens
Those who don’t have space to plant the trees then the council must provide some community woodland creatin space on parks etc for them

This would make every person in the country invested in tree nurturing
And the govt would get other people to
Plant and maintain 120milliontrees for the price of 2 whips
When mature would supply Drax for 45 days... then what?
 

DaveGrohl

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Cumbria
Reducing replacement rates
Replacing fertiliser use with strategic umbilical and compost.
Growing more clover
Trying out more diverse swards which if we can get them to grow on our soil will mean more DM grown on the platform so less to buy in
LED lights
Variable speed pumps in the parlour
Make our own electric when the suns out
Sexed semen
You maybe doing all of these already of course
Who's not actually trying to do all/most of that already? Mainly because it's good business sense.
 

Bald Rick

Moderator
Livestock Farmer
Location
Anglesey
Voting to date is interesting

6 of us are bad beggars redeemed by 7 angels and 41 acolytes but the bulk (73 to date), which I sort of suspected, are simply carrying on

No one likes having their heads constantly pecked ... which the media seems to be doing on a daily basis
 

Ffermer Bach

Member
Livestock Farmer
Voting to date is interesting

6 of us are bad beggars redeemed by 7 angels and 41 acolytes but the bulk (73 to date), which I sort of suspected, are simply carrying on

No one likes having their heads constantly pecked ... which the media seems to be doing on a daily basis
when I said carry on as normal, my normal is pretty good in terms of climate change anyway, not sure there is much I could do differently except maybe put in a ground source heat pump which would cost a lot!
 

Frank-the-Wool

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
East Sussex
It’s not a sensible calculation to be attempting- like comparing apples to marmosets.

There are 3 places for carbon to be:
1) Underground (coal etc)
2) Earths surface (soil, living organisms)
3) In the atmosphere.

Climate change is mainly caused by 1➡️3 and it’s not currently reversible (airlines planting trees to be green is a nonsense!)

Your heating your house with 2➡️3 will also cause some warming effect, but it is fully reversible- I assume that you, like me, quite like trees and if you have land you will probably occasionally plant trees so over your lifetime you at least replace the trees that you’ve burned.
Even if you detest trees, the climate change effect of removing them is not as large as the carbon released from them because SOMETHING (grass, shrubs etc) will naturally grow in its place.

Woodburning stoves also cause local pollution (PM5s, PM10s etc), but unless you live in a built-up area with a lot of people burning wood, that’s unlikely to be a problem.

I suspect that folks that look down on woodburning stoves in rural areas:
1) don’t understand the basic mechanics of climate change.
2) are conflating climate change with rewilding etc. Such folks, I suspect, feel a collective guilt about the destruction of globally important rainforests but, impotent to do anything significant to stop it choose instead to try and reinstate forests here that were removed thousands of years ago (the irony being that that places greater strain on tropical areas for our food production, results in greater transport emissions and generally causes global warming…)

So crack in with your wood fire- much better than any alternative!

Very many thanks for this excellent explanation of what appears to be a very complex issue.
I shall put another log on.
 

DaveGrohl

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Cumbria
14 MW gound mounted solar
38.4 kW solar on grainstore
Biomass boiler heating 4 houses
Electric car
V8 petrol car
100,000 l diesel used annually on farm
intercontinental holiday every other year
Aga to cook red meat

Oh dear that's not looking too good is it, well I started okay.
Sounds like you're doing a heck of a lot more than most of the people who will criticise farmers on a daily basis.
 

JP1

Member
Livestock Farmer
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Livestock save the planet

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In nature, grasslands upon this earth have evolved along with millions of herds of large grazing megafauna, from the North American Bison
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and Caribou, Britain's Red and Roe deer
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and Africa's Wildebeest and Antelopes etc.
There has been large masses of wild ruminants belching out methane on this planet for millennia, herds of thousands of individuals and collectively billions worldwide only up until recent years where now they is significantly less in the wild. Nature and grasslands insist on large grazing herbivores yet human mentally yet gain likes to believe that we know what is best over mother nature, because today we believe that somehow these living domestic relatives of their wild counterparts are now causing climate change and ruining the environment.
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How did it come to this? How have we become so removed from reality, from detached from nature and become so blind and so ignorant? The domesticated bovine is not much different from that of the Bison or from the Wildebeest, yet we blame them? The numbers of domesticated bovine today do not far outmatch those wild population numbers which once inhabitated this planet. Yet we blame them for their large numbers? You cannot blame a creature which has evolved on this planet in it's masses for the modern environmental issues we now face.
The environmental destruction you see or hear about now is not caused by ruminants -it never was. Modern problems are caused by modern causes. The ruminant is not a modern invention. The returning of large herds of megafauna onto grasslands across the globe would in fact help us reverse climate change impacts, but alas I believe that is unfortunately very highly unlikely to ever occur.
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SFI - What % were you taking out of production?

  • 0 %

    Votes: 80 42.3%
  • Up to 25%

    Votes: 66 34.9%
  • 25-50%

    Votes: 30 15.9%
  • 50-75%

    Votes: 3 1.6%
  • 75-100%

    Votes: 3 1.6%
  • 100% I’ve had enough of farming!

    Votes: 7 3.7%

Red Tractor drops launch of green farming scheme amid anger from farmers

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As reported in Independent


quote: “Red Tractor has confirmed it is dropping plans to launch its green farming assurance standard in April“

read the TFF thread here: https://thefarmingforum.co.uk/index.php?threads/gfc-was-to-go-ahead-now-not-going-ahead.405234/
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