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Think they call it wrestling controlGive the bullying old barsteward a leathering and move on lad , life’s too short
Think they call it wrestling controlGive the bullying old barsteward a leathering and move on lad , life’s too short
There comes a time when you have to grow some balls and become a man , not the down trodden son , the old man needs to be told you need a wage or you are off , he`ll have to pay a laborer at least £20k to replace you so he may as well pay you .I know that, but by the sounds of it 'father' isn't going to like the situation. Id say it's about pressing the point and gauging the reaction. Don't think he's going to want to pay £2k a month when he's only forking out £200 now and that's should be x2 for both brothers.
I don't think that the possible inheritance is at the forefront of the OP's mind at the moment - on that subject he's posted on the thread 'Family succession....' which needs to be read in conjunction with this thread.As above if it's got to stage you need to go to samaritans get the fudge out of there.
Just forget work you've put in up till now. Sometimes your first loss is your best loss. Leave and cut all ties. You've given him a chance and put forward your views/opinions with accountant and advisors. He might even respect you for it and leave you something anyway. Or in 5 years he might be on his deathbed and have a change of heart.
I'm permanently tired. Thought it was normal! Can't remember last time I wasn't.
Don't really think it's a problem. Always feel like I could sleep for a week.
Yes, he says he wouldn't mind us being in the business partnership but my mum wanted us to be gifted 25% each of the assets. He won't agree to that because he wants to keep full control. Mum owns 50% of it all
Also, we've been buying land for 20 years so me and my brother have been paying for the farm through work anyway
Is the correct answer. The old man would need to find 2 workers or do the job himself, things would change quickly.Pack a bag and fück off. And don't look back.
Decisions like that really should be by agreement of all partners in a business!So why doesn't mum gift you two her share?
And if she's on the Farm Bank Account she can veto all the machinery purchases
Investment in a vending machine may given someone else another focus within the business, if they want to do that.Not taking sides but at least the father is trying to progress, buying more land keeping kit up to date, investing in a vending machine. Lots of people out there frustrated with parents who don't want to move forwards.
And if asked maybe he'd say he's doing it all for his family?
At the expense of his sons lives , very wrong in my view , egotism, greed and arrogance to not even consider how they feel about having no realistic pay and no quality of life, decent people want the best for their kids.Not taking sides but at least the father is trying to progress, buying more land keeping kit up to date, investing in a vending machine. Lots of people out there frustrated with parents who don't want to move forwards.
And if asked maybe he'd say he's doing it all for his family?
Agree, but we've only heard one side of the story. Maybe the father would say he's waiting for his sons to man up. If they haven't managed to sort it out or leave by now perhaps he's right not to risk losing everything.At the expense of his sons lives , very wrong in my view , egotism, greed and arrogance to not even consider how they feel about having no realistic pay and no quality of life, decent people want the best for their kids.
Waiting for them to man up? his type have probably bullied and manipulated them from kids , in their case it sounds like they are owed something , several years back pay or at least a quarter share of the farm each.Agree, but we've only heard one side of the story. Maybe the father would say he's waiting for his sons to man up. If they haven't managed to sort it out or leave by now perhaps he's right not to risk losing everything.
No one owes you in this world, but they should have a wage and time of for a life of their own. 3 men on 300 acres with good kit shouldn't be impossible for them all to have a life
Exactly , a good lawyer would sew it up.Many Parents are worried about divorce within their offspring and the potential huge financial cost that can have to a historically asset rich business.
But there are ways to get around this without putting the assets into the partnership.