What does this mean ?

[bobk]

The Chancellor has today (Monday, December 30) confirmed nearly £3 billion of funding for 2020 to support farmers once the UK leaves the EU.

Sajid Javid confirmed the cash will be used to maintain the level of funding for Direct Payments at the same rate as last year, providing at least some certainty for farmers for next year.

The UK will leave the Common Agricultural Policy (CAP) Direct Payments scheme, which supports farmers across Europe with subsidies in 2020. This will be replaced by a new system based on public money for public goods.

 

[Shughie McFee]

producing food is a public good, so crack on

 

[AndrewM]

The Chancellor has today (Monday, December 30) confirmed nearly £3 billion of funding for 2020 to support farmers once the UK leaves the EU.

Sajid Javid confirmed the cash will be used to maintain the level of funding for Direct Payments at the same rate as last year, providing at least some certainty for farmers for next year.

The UK will leave the Common Agricultural Policy (CAP) Direct Payments scheme, which supports farmers across Europe with subsidies in 2020. This will be replaced by a new system based on public money for public goods.

It just means that they are carrying on with their plans to phase out the bps, switching payments over to elms. They have just pushed the whole lot back by 1 year. So 2020 carries on the same as 2019, and bps ends 2028 instead of 2027.

 

[DrWazzock]

At worst, they will want you to turn your farm into a nature reserve and allow public access if you want any taxpayers money after 2028. Politically and economically it's light years away so I am not worried about it. Loads could happen in the meantime. I will probably have retired by then or be in a different business if I am lucky enough to still be around. Not at all concerned about it.

 

[Derrick Hughes]

No idea in Wales as we hsve the Idiot Drake ford in change
Wales is being run by a Corbyneaster, is it only me that finds that worrying

 

[bobk]

At worst, they will want you to turn your farm into a nature reserve and allow public access if you want any taxpayers money after 2028. Politically and economically it's light years away so I am not worried about it. Loads could happen in the meantime. I will probably have retired by then or be in a different business if I am lucky enough to still be around. Not at all concerned about it.

Sooner eat my own testicles

 

[br jones]

No idea in Wales as we hsve the Idiot Drake ford in change
Wales is being run by a Corbyneaster, is it only me that finds that worrying

No not just you ,

 

[DrWazzock]

Sooner eat my own testicles

You probably will be if we get too reliant on imported food.

 

[Hindsight]

Sooner eat my own testicles

Fried, roasted or as per 'al dente', to give a European flavour? Which condiment and garnish would go well with cooked Staffordshire Balls. A pity Gary Rhodes passed away as I am sure he could have come up with a suitable concoction for an old British favourite 'how to complain and grumble' yet still submit that subsidy application!

Best wishes for New Year. More sport to be had in the next decade.

 

[M-J-G]

At worst, they will want you to turn your farm into a nature reserve and allow public access if you want any taxpayers money after 2028. Politically and economically it's light years away so I am not worried about it. Loads could happen in the meantime. I will probably have retired by then or be in a different business if I am lucky enough to still be around. Not at all concerned about it.

We have public access in Scotland and despite being close to a major city I see no difference that I did 20 years ago.

From what I read on TFF there seems to be more issues in areas where access is restricted to footpaths.

 

[DrWazzock]

We have looked here at the possibility of leaving a field for rewilding just in case we are ever forced down that route. There isn't a field I'd want to turn over to that use as either it would eventually shade some productive land, ruin the drains or end up as another home for all sorts of vermin or pernicious weeds. It just seems so wasteful and disrespectful to the 200 or so years of work that has gone into turning this farm from desolate sand blown Heath to stable productive soil.

Yes I'd probably rather eat my own testicles or sell up if they make it worth my while and somebody wants to pour money into such a misguided venture.

 

[jendan]

It just means that they are carrying on with their plans to phase out the bps, switching payments over to elms. They have just pushed the whole lot back by 1 year. So 2020 carries on the same as 2019, and bps ends 2028 instead of 2027.

What is elms? I take it that it is not the tree variety.

 

[Forever Fendt]

We have public access in Scotland and despite being close to a major city I see no difference that I did 20 years ago.

From what I read on TFF there seems to be more issues in areas where access is restricted to footpaths.

so does this mean anyone can just walk anywhere on your land as they like

 

[DrWazzock]

I won't be entering into such schemes also for the reason I don't trust them so administrate them effectively and also, with the many strings attached, see it as nothing more than public appropriation of private land. We will and up in a national park, or effectively nationalised.

I'll be holding out as a fundamentalist farmer for as long as possible then get out. I have no interest in public goods etc. I don't trust the public to respect anything by and large, let alone rewilded land. It will end up as a dog sh!t invested dumping ground in this area. No thanks.

 

[Hindsight]

What is elms? I take it that it is not the tree variety.

ELMS - Environmental Stewardship Scheme is replacement for the existing Stewardship Schemes (CSS), funded and agreed with EU under CAP, and the BPS, as explained in the draft Agriculture Bill. Currently being trialed or about to be trialed in a few locations nationally.

 

[DrWazzock]

We have public access in Scotland and despite being close to a major city I see no difference that I did 20 years ago.

From what I read on TFF there seems to be more issues in areas where access is restricted to footpaths.

We don't have a problem yet but as more and more holiday lets and tourism establishments spring up we get more and more walkers some who feel entitled to roam where they like. No doubt open access would be handy for the tourism industry. They reap the benefit. We get the nuisance. Happening a lot in our local villages. Hen night hot tubs abound. Alright at a distance. Not so good for neighbour's, but nobody gives a toss about them as long as the council is promoting tourism. The people who are having to put up with the intrusion are only the people who made the area what it is - a nice place to visit. Others capitalise on that and really contribute nothing. Same old same old.

 

[Hindsight]

We don't have a problem yet but as more and more holiday lets and tourism establishments spring up we get more and more walkers some who feel entitled to roam where they like. No doubt open access would be handy for the tourism industry. They reap the benefit. We get the nuisance. Happening a lot in our local villages. Hen night hot tubs abound. Alright at a distance. Not so good for neighbour's, but nobody gives a toss about them as long as the council is promoting tourism. The people who are having to put up with the intrusion are only the people who made the area what it is - a nice place to visit. Others capitalise on that and really contribute nothing. Same old same old.

Hen night hot tubs. Pray do tell more!?

 

[Bill the Bass]

producing food is a public good, so crack on

Not according to the government, the market provides it.

 

[Hesston4860s]

We have looked here at the possibility of leaving a field for rewilding just in case we are ever forced down that route. There isn't a field I'd want to turn over to that use as either it would eventually shade some productive land, ruin the drains or end up as another home for all sorts of vermin or pernicious weeds. It just seems so wasteful and disrespectful to the 200 or so years of work that has gone into turning this farm from desolate sand blown Heath to stable productive soil.

Yes I'd probably rather eat my own testicles or sell up if they make it worth my while and somebody wants to pour money into such a misguided venture.

I have 2 fields all rewilded ready to go you can rent 1 !, however I doubt it will be that simple.

 

[A1an]

so does this mean anyone can just walk anywhere on your land as they like

In short, yes. There is a right of RESPONSIBLE access. If I'm honest it's not a problem the majority of the time.