What follows the internet?

Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by Pasty, Jun 12, 2018.

  1. Pasty

    Pasty Member

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    Devon
    I'm sitting here trying to compose a very boring email about fruit trees and my mind wondered.

    Tonight,at our PC meeting we had to adopt all sorts of GRDP, Subject Access, Data protection and other such documents. To say that most people had not even read them would be fair. I had. Mostly. Then we have been advised that our parish website must have an SSL cert,even though it collects or stores no data or Google will throw a warning that it is dangerous. It's all a massive amount of tax payer's money being paid to faceless people who just make up nonsense to justify their jobs and they are very good at it.

    So I got to thinking. Is the freedom that the web has created slowly been taken over by corporations and governments? Obviously so. That got me to wondering what will be next.

    Let's face it. Who could have predicted this internet in 1990? Just the insane way it all fits together. 28 years later, it rules most of our lives pretty much.

    So, once the web as we know is totally locked down, what happens then? Where will the next generation who have the spirit and imagination of those who started this go? What will they create? Or will we step back and take back control of our lives with less 'integration' and info sharing?
     
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  2. Kiwi Pete

    Kiwi Pete Member

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    Owaka, New Zealand
    If you can PM me as soon as you know, please, as I have 1050 shares in Apple I should probably offload :nailbiting: :)

    Yes it really is far and beyond anything prophesied or imagined, by me anyway.
    I have also pondered many things, eg how do you get rid of it? And what next?

    As it evolves I can definitely see the erosion of "privacy" - or the illusion of such... but that was already well advanced, internet made the information much easier to collate and harvest.

    GDPR is a nice token gesture as a thankyou :rolleyes:
     
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  3. Pasty

    Pasty Member

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    Devon
    One thing that occurs to me is that as these companies expand and fiat currencies become more worthless, will they be the new governments? Who will have the actual power in the future? Trump or Facebook?
     
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  4. Already debatable, that one! :rolleyes:
     
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  5. Danllan

    Danllan Member

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    Sir Gar / Carms
    Either highly encrypted comm's or - miracle - a return to and increase in face-to-face conversation.
     
  6. Exfarmer

    Exfarmer Member

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    Bury St Edmunds
    I believe the WWW was invented for universities to share information and knowledge, universally.
    In the early days it was possible to research subjects in depth using knowledge from across the world in the comfort of your own home, without the need for travel and large reference books.
    Sadly it seems to have become a very crowded market place to sell any sort of product and to do any serious research means wading through page after page of adds then even more scurrilous often libellous and much other misinformation, before you come across anything remotely useful. Sadly I would guess future generations will lose all sense of reality with few actually being able to tell truth from twaddle.
     
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  7. Grassman

    Grassman Member

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    Derbyshire
    The internet has and is developing into something that many countries will struggle to exist without.

    Most communication is online nowadays.
    Business is done online.
    Government is online.
    Fraud and crime is online.

    In future a country could be brought to its knees by a terrorist or criminal organisation who could find a way of controlling the internet. A war could be won without military hardware or soldiers.

    Without gps satellites and the internet the world would grind to a halt.
     
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  8. Without the 'net I will start having sex instead of watching it.
     
  9. No one entity can control the web. Thats the point of it. Believe me the US have tried.

    The future will be AI and VR.
     
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  10. Had to chuckle. June census form arrives, closely followed by a letter telling us they're holding my data.....but as it's the government there's fudge all you can do about it.

    The entire internet will crash spectacularly within the next 10 years. Back to pencil and paper.
     
  11. JCMaloney

    JCMaloney Member

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    AI is the ethical monster rolling over the horizon....... rise of the machines and all that.
    If a machine can think based on pure, unadulterated logic with no emotion who needs people?
    In fact they are the "things" decimating the planet..... best bump `em off.
     
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  12. Ashtree

    Ashtree Member

    Didn’t Big Button himself mention something about switching off the internet when he got free lodgings in a big old house in Washington!!!! Said he was gonna call up some guy called Bill Gates and ask him to remove the battery :whistle::whistle::whistle:
     
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  13. I dont see it as such a threat.

    AI will be limited only by our ability to code for it. Its hardly going to be able to make complex decisions about launching a nuclear weapon so its utility for that application will be very limited.

    Instead I see software capable of flying aircraft or driving machinery or eliminating mundane jobs that were so dependant upon a MK1 human eyeball and hand. Applications that are fairly straight forward to code.

    AI today isnt artifical intelligence really. Its just written to look like it is. Im used to interacting with AI a lot because a lot of games rely on it. But it is fairly stupid and unable react to anything not in the script.

    As for computers and the internet just grinding to a halt, its too diffuse for that. The internet is a huge web of networked computers. There is no single master switch or button to turn it off. Look at how the Russian and Chinese governments cant control the flow of data which they deem damaging to their political landscapes.
     
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  14. Robt

    Robt Member

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    The internet is far from over...IOT is constantly growing.... When your fridge talks to your toilet to determine your health and orders your shopping is the time to start saying enough is enough!
     
  15. nick...

    nick... Member

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    south norfolk
    Apparently its ok to i think 2038 when computers run out of letters and numbers etc.dunno what will happen then.heard a debate about it on the radio last week
    Nick...
     
  16. franklin

    franklin New Member

    I remember a friend of my brother, who was doing an apprenticeship, tried to convince me of the next big thing "Bluetooth" . Just couldn't see it myself.

    Bio implants the next thing. Just read and William Gibson book and that's the future.
     
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  17. Spear

    Spear Member

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    If you seriously think that AI will never be able to make its own choices and write its own software then you’re being very naive. Mankind went from just making preprogrammed survival decisions to where we are now. But then again our thoughts and movements are but mere electrical pulses....maybe we are just AI in somebody’s game.
     
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  18. kfpben

    kfpben Member

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    I’m only 30 and I already feel like I don’t no what the hell is going on half the time with technology.

    I’m actually thinking of getting rid of my smart phone as it’s such a time waster.
     
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  19. Pasty

    Pasty Member

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    Devon
    I'm not saying the internet is over at all. It's just, who could have imagined this in 1990? The thing is that it also enables technical 'exponential' (there, I said it) growth.

    I was just musing that very few people were talking about 'the internet' in 1990 and now it is the backbone of just about everything. I just wonder where we will be in another 30 years.

    I suppose the point is, there is no point in trying to predict it. Watching editions of Tomorrow's World on Youtube is hilarious. Governments banning sales of non-hybrid cars by 2040 is utterly ridiculous. Aside from niche markets, who will want one by 2030? Or even 2022? Nobody.
     
  20. Pasty

    Pasty Member

    Location:
    Devon
    It only is if you choose it to be. Couple years ago, we had relatives down and had a nice evening with cheese and wine and at some point, everyone in the room, aside from me was glued to their phone. Probably uploading to FB to say what a wonderful evening they were having. It was a little surreal to be honest and it lasted for quite some time. I just sat there in awe. They had all checked out and nobody noticed the silence as they clicked away and pings came back.
     
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