what grinds your gears - Welsh Politics
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smcapstick
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What should [read: do you want them] to vote?
rc mx110
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you say that like thwere is anythimg else worth voting for
you say that like thwere is anythimg else worth voting for
In Wales Plaid Cymru. Sod policy, we need an awkward squad to get concessions in the Brexit shambles.
pycoed
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- Pontarddulais, UK
A long overdue & welcome outbreak of common sense!
OK...Tory then...
Unless we register as a ward of Buckinghamshire, no chance...
Common sense is not voting for a party who have no policies for you. May came to Cardiff to make a speech the other day and didn't mention a single policy for Wales. What suits Britain automatically suits Wales, well the Welsh sheep farmers in here will rue the day the vote for that...
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pycoed
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Plaid Cymru are a bunch of socialists (with racist overtones) who have zero chance of formulating coherent policies for Wales when alienating the paymaster - the UK Treasury. A truly wasted vote in a general election especially.
pycoed
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More what? Regulation? Laws? Taxes? Handouts?
I suggest voting for the only party that is going to get us out of Europe, the only party that can be trusted with the economy (three times in my lifetime Labour has wrecked the economy), the only party that has realistic & grown up policies, the best of a bad bunch - the Tories.
I've voted UKIP for a good while now, but I can't see the point any longer, especially since the party was really a one man band, but I would suggest that no socialist group should be trusted to run anything bigger than a tea party. & Plaid ARE socialists.
Of course they are, because most voters in Wales used to claim to be socialist at least.
But you're missing the point. Welsh Tory MPs would do even less for Wales than Labour as they would just get lost in the numbers and be whipped to vote against anything remotely decentralist. The Great Repeal Bill is a power grab for Westminster, the Celtic nations have to resist it on a pure democratic basis to ensure powers from Brussels in develoved matters pass to us. To do that they need non Tory MPs.
If you voted UKIP you have the same decentralist non conformist instincts as Plaid voters.
The way to get Welsh politics to be more right wing is to vote Tory in the Assembly elections.
Sussex Martin
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Ffs what's this another conspiracy theory thought up to disguise hatred for the English because your ancestors 400 years ago went hungry because some English King stole his loaf of bread.
Sussex Martin
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Good, get fed up of those ones
.Good, get fed up of those ones
Imagine what the French are feeling with Brexit...
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You've got to admit it sounds like it.
Plaid led by a non Welsh speaker (well learner) who does an even better job than Corbyn for claiming every public expenditure as an "investment"
Access to the single market. 76% of Wales' exports are to the EU, the highest proportion of any part of the British Isles. Exports are 86% of our economy.
smcapstick
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I was a remainer - I understand your desire.
How can Plaid change Brexit? We're leaving and that's that.
Then why vote for anybody ever again? What hope of scrutiny in our favour if we don't vote for it?
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