What happens to older tractors?

Lowland1

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Mixed Farmer
saw a john deere scraper fractor in my brother in laws workshop yday it was one of those indian made ones , 50hp things no cab, anyway it was a 16reg and had 13000 hours on the clock.......
They sell a lot those in Kenya however they are made of chocolate and get broken very easily by the locals everyone is complaining how soft they are compared with the staple mf 290 that was commonplace
 

nick...

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Arable Farmer
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south norfolk
They sell a lot those in Kenya however they are made of chocolate and get broken very easily by the locals everyone is complaining how soft they are compared with the staple mf 290 that was commonplace
Can’t be that bad doing 13,000 hours in three years.sounds like a great tractor being used by stockmen who are generally thought to not see after machinery,and yes I know they are not all like that
Nick...
 
Surely it’s about the hours on the clock. I have bought some new tractors over the last few years they will knock up 2000+ hours a year but I am always looking for tractors of say 4000-5000 hours as backups and age is not important it’s basically the useful life remaining. I don’t worry about impressing the neighbours with the number plate as here no one understands the numbers.
Think some are getting more impressed with the older number plates ,doing big hours ,than all the lilly livered sounding hair dryers that need a laptop to fix them , like the new plough that would not work yesterday ,because it has electrics ,to control turnover and front furrow , could of ploughed 50 acre time they been messing with it ,its now stuck half over and needs a service guy and lap top to sort it , wont be buying that type
 

Hooby Farmer

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roe valley
Kenyan tractor drivers will make any stockman in the UK look like he has serious machinery skills

When I lived in Namibia the neighbouring farmer was showing his new guys how to read the dipstick on the tractor engine, and how if the level falls below this line it needs topped up. Some of the guys must have not understood about half of the info or if they didn't understand what was being talked about about. Two weeks later the Massey lies down, me and Davy take it apart. Engine and sump full of sand. We think that they poured sand into the bottom of the engine to get the level to rise.
 
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devonboy

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Mixed Farmer
i agree that a lot of stockmen have serious mechanical skills.... :happy: the point i make though this type of tractor can be repaired relatively easily, the same as a mf290 which isnt available any more.
 

Wellytrack

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When I lived in Namibia the neighbouring farmer was showing his new guys how to read the dipstick on the tractor engine, and how if the level falls below this line it needs topped up. Some of the guys must have understood about half of the info or if they didn't understand what was being talked about about. Two weeks later the Massey lies down, me and Davy take it apart. Engine and sump full of sand. We think that they poured sand into the bottom of the engine to get the level to rise.

Where did you bury them?
 

Scribus

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Central Atlantic
Think some are getting more impressed with the older number plates ,doing big hours ,than all the lilly livered sounding hair dryers that need a laptop to fix them , like the new plough that would not work yesterday ,because it has electrics ,to control turnover and front furrow , could of ploughed 50 acre time they been messing with it ,its now stuck half over and needs a service guy and lap top to sort it , wont be buying that type

And yet the plough company would have boasted of the extra productivity offered by their product!

One of the major problems manufacturers have is that the principles and design of tractors and machinery are now well established and there are few if any major mechanical engineering developments to come, so they simply throw electronic doo dahs at the job instead. Now some of it is quite useful it must be said, joystick control of fore-end loaders and gear shifting options being two that immedietly spring to mind. Yet there is a downside and that is reliability and longevity and these are issues which they may not be quite so fussed about seeing as farmers are still buying top brand machines rather than the more basic makes which are available.

So where do they go next? JD obviously think the next step is greater digitization and even autonomy, but not everybody is of that mind, as we have seen there are even those who believe that farms as we know them will be replaced with giant vats of bacteria churning out foodstuffs, which is fine until they get infected with something dodgy. Until then the tractor companies have to come up with new ways of convincing us that their particular product is better than anyone elses and I rather fear they are running out of genuine ideas.
 

Ian j

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Mixed Farmer
Where does these old tractor go, 2000, 2009, reg tractors, there still seams to be good money in them but who buys them, do they go abroad?
Plenty of financial for them here as well as the expert market plenty of uses especially on livestock farms even as main stream use far easier payed for no huge finance payments or /lease payments no fancy electronics to go wrong the export market trends to keep prices high and take the tractors from the home market I have a 1980 100+ hp perfectly capable of a days ploughing when needed
 

2wheels

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Location
aberdeenshire
When I lived in Namibia the neighbouring farmer was showing his new guys how to read the dipstick on the tractor engine, and how if the level falls below this line it needs topped up. Some of the guys must have not understood about half of the info or if they didn't understand what was being talked about about. Two weeks later the Massey lies down, me and Davy take it apart. Engine and sump full of sand. We think that they poured sand into the bottom of the engine to get the level to rise.
strange that they can't work out the oil needs topping up but know that putting sand in will raise the level on the dipstick.:unsure:
 

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