What have I done !

Round here tramlines (not on my farm) combine wheelings and trailer wheelings are now full of water all on land that had some degree of subsoiling last year

On notill controlled traffic the wheeling lines do not rut so cannot fill up with water
Tramlines that used to be rutted after subsoiling or ploughing ( to fill the previous years rut ) are not rutted so do not fill with water
Last year dry weather cracked the soil out below drain depth keeping the cracks allows the water to get down to the mole drainage that connect to the drains
If I find a field needs loosening more I now mole at 1 m spacing

Clive’s soil type is different with less clay so mole drainage would not help
Imho if the soil type is clay subsoil that is good for moling spend all the cultivation cost on mole draining using gps
This will allow notill and soon you realise you do not need to mole so much
 

JCfarmer

Member
Location
warks
My question is if the soil/field had been in no till for 10 years with excellent soil structure why did the spreaders sink in so much?
Sounds like its been turned over for 10 years?:unsure::LOL:Tin Hat
 
Hello, my names Clive, and I’m a cultivator.
I use to have it bad, I even owned a quadtrac!
But then I found the light and discover zero-till, it was hard work and took years to get over the cultivations but with the help of the TFF massive I finally got on the straight and narrow and even went to a 36m CTF system.
But recently though I’ve felt myself slipping, I’ve had uncontrollable urges to cultivate! I can’t explain it, maybe it was the time on my hands or the site of the subsoiler sitting unused in the yard or the thought of shiny metal been dragged through soil:cry:, I just can’t explain it.
Then it happened :oops: I found myself dragging cold steal through warm soil and it felt so good to feel the earth move:nailbiting:. But now I’ve realised what I’ve done and I’m regretting it:facepalm::LOL::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
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Is that Clives dad?
 

Brisel

Member
Location
Dorset
The tramlines should sort themselves - only a light tickle of the top to level them up should have been all that was required. I have worm casts in my tramlines & I'm still strip till drilling. I don't miss subsoiling the ruts in tramlines. It was a pig of a job given to the harvest students & only resulted in them becoming deep ruts again the following year.
 

Clive

Staff Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lichfield
It's only a subsoiler pass for heavens sake. There should be little or no inversion, it looks coarse and lumpy now but will be easy to put back in no time. So you've killed a few worms, they will recover over the coming years and have just had a horde of biosolids and compost to get to work on.

The only problem you may have is explaining to us all what you intend to do when this particular field of OSR out-yields the rest come harvest.
It’s stopped raining and looks better today !

We will soon sort it out and have osr in by the end of the week I hope but have without doubt destroyed the proper soil structure I had there
 

Clive

Staff Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lichfield
My question is if the soil/field had been in no till for 10 years with excellent soil structure why did the spreaders sink in so much?
Sounds like its been turned over for 10 years?:unsure::LOL:Tin Hat
There was no sinking in at all really

This is simply poor judgement on my part - it didn’t need doing, I got it wrong in a moment of madness / self doubt !

as always hindsight is 20/20 !!!!
 

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