What is the future for Northern Ireland

Boohoo

Member
Location
Newtownabbey
Sinn Fein will bring down Stormont for good, they have no interest in sharing power because it isn't getting them to their main aim. Their next step will be to push for joint authority and if they don't get that they'll happily accept direct rule although they'll never admit it publicly.
 

Ashtree

Member
Sinn Fein will bring down Stormont for good, they have no interest in sharing power because it isn't getting them to their main aim. Their next step will be to push for joint authority and if they don't get that they'll happily accept direct rule although they'll never admit it publicly.

SF worked well with Paisley and Robinson. Disagreements yes, but functional enough to make a coalition administration work.
AF is the difference between then and now. She doesn't have the grip and control on her party that her predecessors had.
 

alex04w

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Co Antrim
Hope he does better than he did when in charge at DETI and that Department was introducing the Renewable Heat Incentive.

Then again, maybe he should carry on. The rebates on our Rates might end up being more than the Rates in the first place. :eek: :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO: :rolleyes:
 

alex04w

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Co Antrim
The EU is stirring the pot again today. Two proposals have come to light.

Firstly the EU has clearly said that a United Ireland will seamlessly join / remain in the EU. It is merely an existing member expanding its territory and not a new country seeking first time membership. Such language is only going to inflame tensions in NI.

Secondly they have laid out the order for negotiations with the UK. Tusk reiterates Merkel's comments that the past must be sorted out before the future relationship is addressed. In a letter to the EU nations, excluding the UK, Tusk has stated

"Before discussing our future, we must first sort out our past," he said, listing three priorities

- On EU citizens living in the UK, he called for "effective, enforceable, non-discriminatory and comprehensive" guarantees

- The UK must fulfil all its financial obligations agreed as an EU member state

- A deal must be reached "to avoid a hard border between the Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland"

Only after the above three points are sorted will the EU address the future relationship with the UK and any trade deals.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-39742949

This is the height of stupidity - putting the horse before the cart to use an agricultural saying. Tusk wants the UK/Irish border sorted before we know if it is a hard Brexit that even needs the border to be addressed.

Given the past comments Gibraltar, it seems the EU are now moving on to NI to try and make as much trouble as possible for the UK. It appears the EU is going to use every dirty trick they can think of to try and prevent the UK from leaving. They should have tried harder when Cameron sought amendments to our relationship back before the referendum.

The EU's approach could backfire badly if the UK gives a Churchillian salute to the EU and walks away.
 

thewalrus

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Northern Ireland
I am no Arlene foster fan, but she is doing more to reach out to "the other side" at the moment than Michelle O'Neil has ever done?(indeed she seems to have no interest in reaching out)
 
A united ireland in the long term would make economic sense, but would unionists/loyalists ever be convinced it to vote for it?

I think once the economics of the arrangement would be thrust into the public spotlight, no amount of Michael Collins reruns would get the voters of the Republic to go for it. Money isn't everything but it's better than being broke.

One man I've little time for was on radio yesterday, Bertie Ahern, said if people wanted trouble in the north again, then voting for a united Ireland once the demographics gave Nationalists & Republicans a majority would be a good way of getting that.
 

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