What is the future for Northern Ireland

antares100

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Brexit would be so much easier for the British if they hadn't the millstone of the six counties chained to their ankle, I find it funny to hear the unionists banging on about 80% of the trade from the 6 counties being with Britain, while Britain has to subsidise the 6 counties something like 10 billion pounds per year just to keep the basket case statelet afloat, bet the British establishment regret ever bowing down to the threat of UVF violence all those years ago when Home Rule was set to be established in Ireland, if they had all of Ireland would still have been in the UK and all the last 100 years of our fractious history need never have happened, same thing now with Brexit and the Unionists position, all they are doing is speeding up the day of Irish unity.
this whole thing is comical, the Tories been held in power by the Dup, the tail is wagging the dog!!
 

yin ewe

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Co Antrim
Brexit would be so much easier for the British if they hadn't the millstone of the six counties chained to their ankle, I find it funny to hear the unionists banging on about 80% of the trade from the 6 counties being with Britain, while Britain has to subsidise the 6 counties something like 10 billion pounds per year just to keep the basket case statelet afloat, bet the British establishment regret ever bowing down to the threat of UVF violence all those years ago when Home Rule was set to be established in Ireland, if they had all of Ireland would still have been in the UK and all the last 100 years of our fractious history need never have happened, same thing now with Brexit and the Unionists position, all they are doing is speeding up the day of Irish unity.
this whole thing is comical, the Tories been held in power by the Dup, the tail is wagging the dog!!

But we are where we are in terms of history. There is little appetite for a united ireland in my opinion ,due to the fact that Dublin hasn't got 10 billion to chuck north of the border. The die hard republicans will always vote for a united ireland, the unionists will never vote for a united ireland and the nationalists will say they want a united ireland, but would vote against it because of the adverse effect on the hip pockets.
 

Ashtree

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But we are where we are in terms of history. There is little appetite for a united ireland in my opinion ,due to the fact that Dublin hasn't got 10 billion to chuck north of the border. The die hard republicans will always vote for a united ireland, the unionists will never vote for a united ireland and the nationalists will say they want a united ireland, but would vote against it because of the adverse effect on the hip pockets.


Correct analysis I believe.

But you know the fly in the ointment is the great majority of British people don’t give two hoots for NI. That would get rid of it tomorrow morning if they had a choice.
Especially now, that it shows up on the radar, as being a right nuisance to getting a smooth Brexit.

This “out now”, thing is becoming a double edged sword. :oops:

Poll finds Brexit more of a priority than North https://www.rte.ie/news/brexit/2018/0326/950212-border/
 

The Agrarian

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Northern Ireland
Northern English are a bit smarter about it, the further north you go. But many southern English are frankly ignorant about the makeup of the United kingdom to which they belong. They simply haven't a clue that there's anything other than sheep north of Oxford, dear love them. And not to be racist, but there's a lot of 'English' that have barely been here two or three generations, living in ethnic zones, practicing their own religions and cultures, and speaking their own languages. How can they have the faintest idea what constitutes the United Kingdom?

It's ironic really that the core of UK identity is no longer reliably found in the metros, but in the far flung corners of the countrysides of England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland.
 

Muck Spreader

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Limousin
The second NI gets the slightest more favourable Brexit deal than the rest of the UK, will trigger the "we should have that too" and next referendum campaign in Scotland.
 

Sweepa

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Location
Northern Ireland
Northern English are a bit smarter about it, the further north you go. But many southern English are frankly ignorant about the makeup of the United kingdom to which they belong. They simply haven't a clue that there's anything other than sheep north of Oxford, dear love them. And not to be racist, but there's a lot of 'English' that have barely been here two or three generations, living in ethnic zones, practicing their own religions and cultures, and speaking their own languages. How can they have the faintest idea what constitutes the United Kingdom?

It's ironic really that the core of UK identity is no longer reliably found in the metros, but in the far flung corners of the countrysides of England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland.
Don't be racist now father
 

antares100

Member
Border down the Irish sea on the way with Boris's deal, United Ireland is inevitable now, only a matter of time till the massive mistake that partition was is rectified. North men South men comrades all.
 

The Agrarian

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Northern Ireland
It's not all about the pound notes. The Wolfe Tones seem to think we can just be assimilated into their Irish culture and identity (ironically the Roman Catholic church made sure that wouldn't happen) - and be happy to sing the soldiers song arm in arm with them!?! That's if it was a serious song. But of course it isn't. It's a light-hearted but stinging piece of mockery. Well if thats the plan, they can shove it up their a#$es.
 

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