What! No one read the Telegraph this morning?

[DaveGrohl]

Why would anyone buy a newspaper, especially a big expensive broadsheet when they still have 200 old copies of the FW from days gone by and it lights the fire just perfect?

I do like the line about 'asthma, allergies, IBS, autoimmune diseases' etc I'm not entirely sure these weren't a thing in the 1950's mind. The tools to diagnose them probably didn't exist or they were conditions we didn't fully understand perhaps.

I think the main issue with food today is how highly calorific and processed much of it is. I can eat an entire big mac meal- way over 1000 calories with the same ease as I eat a banana. Unfortunately I can usually still taste it for longer than it keeps me from feeling hungry again. I don't do fast food like this any longer as it's just utter bilge.

What's odd about that particular list of diseases is that for some reason it leaves out the common metabolic diseases that are caused by this cr@p. Maybe the author assumes we are all well aware of how these diseases are caused and therefore doesn’t need to include them in the list, preferring to include some different ones on that assumption for variety?

 

[Spudley]

I subscribe to the Telegraph on line, and I could not find an article called "the great plant based con"

It's in the Sunday section, I had a job to find it too

 

[Ffermer Bach]

It's in the Sunday section, I had a job to find it too

I went old school and bought the paper based version, and found it then, a very well researched and written piece I think

 

[Huno]

The Great Plant-Based Con: Why eating a plants-only diet won't improve your health or save the planet : Buxton, Jayne: Amazon.co.uk: Books

The Great Plant-Based Con: Why eating a plants-only diet won't improve your health or save the planet : Buxton, Jayne: Amazon.co.uk: Books

www.amazon.co.uk

That is the kind of book the NHS would love to publish but are not allowed too

 

[DaveGrohl]

That is the kind of book the NHS would love to publish but are not allowed too

Eh?

 

[Huno]

Eh?

The NHS want people to eat a balanced diet Dave.. including meat

 

[DaveGrohl]

The NHS want people to eat a balanced diet Dave.. including meat

Do they? Have you seen the NHS dietary recommendations?

 

[Huno]

Do they? Have you seen the NHS dietary recommendations?

Oh god!! Please dont tell me they are meat free at a westminster level?? A real Dr or Nurse would not agree

 

[Huno]

All medics know that small amounts of nutient dense food from any source and is easily digested by the human gut is the key to stopping the NHS going bust... simple crap from year 1 medical school..excuse the pun

 

[primmiemoo]

BBC Radio 4 - A Thorough Examination with Drs Chris and Xand, Series 1: Addicted to Food, S1. Ep 7 - One Year On

Chris and Xand van Tulleken catch up on a year of professional and personal change.

www.bbc.co.uk

The Drs Van Tulleken have been busy making a follow up series about food and health.

 

[wrenbird]

The NHS want people to eat a balanced diet Dave.. including meat

Do they? Have you seen the NHS dietary recommendations?

@Huno, the NHS diet recommendations is that over a third of every meal should be a starchy carbohydrate, bread, potatoes, pasta, rice etc. Great advice if you are already diabetic or obese.
Also, soya milk is 'the same as' dairy...
As for the oils they recommend, I wouldn't have most of them in the house to put on a squeaky wheel, let alone cook with.

 

[Huno]

@Huno, the NHS diet recommendations is that over a third of every meal should be a starchy carbohydrate, bread, potatoes, pasta, rice etc. Great advice if you are already diabetic or obese.
Also, soya milk is 'the same as' dairy...

Thank you... i am enlightened to the science

 

[Huno]

A third meat.. a third veg and a third carbohyrate.. simples

 

[Freewheel]

Sunday Telegraph link here (Paywall) : -

The Telegraph

digitaleditions.telegraph.co.uk

 

[texelburger]

I was talking to my neighbour at our Jubilee party and she asked if we had any vegan food for her 3 year old Grandaughter who's mother is a Gay doctor.I asked if she endorsed how her daughter was bringing up her little girl.She replied it is absolute madness but her daughter is a strong personality. I enquired what her husband thought as he is a Professor of Medicine.She replied that he was livid and thought the diet could present serious medical problems in the future.I said do you want me to have a word and they said no as they didn't want a row at the party but they fully agreed with my sentiments.
The mother of the little girl who was married to another woman,now parted,looked pale and thin.I told the mother a pasture reared livestock system was better for the climate and encouraged a plethora of life to live and breed on the grass.Vegan crops,on the other hand,kill far more life than a grass based system.She agreed wholeheartedly.
I bet you're all wondering how she had a little girl.I think it involved donor sperms and a flush of eggs.

 

[Ffermer Bach]

I was talking to my neighbour at our Jubilee party and she asked if we had any vegan food for her 3 year old Grandaughter who's mother is a Gay doctor.I asked if she endorsed how her daughter was bringing up her little girl.She replied it is absolute madness but her daughter is a strong personality. I enquired what her husband thought as he is a Professor of Medicine.She replied that he was livid and thought the diet could present serious medical problems in the future.I said do you want me to have a word and they said no as they didn't want a row at the party but they fully agreed with my sentiments.
The mother of the little girl who was married to another woman,now parted,looked pale and thin.I told the mother a pasture reared livestock system was better for the climate and encouraged a plethora of life to live and breed on the grass.Vegan crops,on the other hand,kill far more life than a grass based system.She agreed wholeheartedly.
I bet you're all wondering how she had a little girl.I think it involved donor sperms and a flush of eggs.

so, what did she say to your arguments about climate change etc? Of course some people become Vegan because of their values about killing and eating animals, if that is the reason no argument about science cuts the mustard.

 

[holwellcourtfarm]

An egg a day keeps the doctor away by boosting ‘good cholesterol’​

Daily consumption can help reduce the risk of cardiovascular disease or stroke

ByTelegraph Reporters5 June 2022 • 2:56pm

Eating an egg every day can boost “good cholesterol”, a study has found.
It leads to more “good” HDL, or high-density lipoprotein, cholesterol which strips the “bad” low-density lipoprotein (LDL) away, epidemiologists at Peking University found.
This can help reduce the risk of cardiovascular disease or stroke.
Dr Lang Pan, first author, said: “Few studies have looked at the role plasma cholesterol metabolism plays in the association between egg consumption and the risk of cardiovascular diseases. We wanted to help address this gap.”
The findings are based on 4,778 people in China, of whom 3,401 had cardiovascular disease.

‘Moderate consumption’ protects against clots and hypertension​

Blood samples showed those who consumed a moderate amount of eggs had greater levels of APOA1 (apolipoprotein A1), a building-block of “good cholesterol”.
In particular, they had more large HDL molecules which help clear the “bad cholesterol” from arteries and blood vessels, thereby protecting against clots and hypertension. This prevents blockages that cut blood flow to major organs, including the heart and brain.
The scientists also identified 14 metabolites, or proteins, linked to heart disease.
Participants who ate fewer eggs had lower levels of beneficial proteins and higher levels of harmful ones compared to those who ate them more regularly.

More studies needed​

Professor Canqing Yu said: “Together, our results provide a potential explanation for how eating a moderate amount of eggs can help protect against heart disease.
“More studies are needed to verify the causal roles that lipid metabolites play in the association between egg consumption and the risk of cardiovascular disease.”
The researchers used a technique called targeted nuclear magnetic resonance to measure 225 metabolites in plasma - 24 of which were associated with self-reported levels of egg consumption.
The NHS currently advises eggs are a good choice as part of a healthy, balanced diet, while the British Heart Foundation has said eating them should no longer be seen as a health risk.
The results were published in the journal eLife.

'Good cholesterol'

There no such thing as 'bad cholesterol' so how can there be specifically good stuff?

 

[texelburger]

so, what did she say to your arguments about climate change etc? Of course some people become Vegan because of their values about killing and eating animals, if that is the reason no argument about science cuts the mustard.

Well I spoke to her mother and she agreed with everything I said.I never actually spoke to the daughter as her mother said she was strong willed and didn't want an argument. The daughter did look like a" Billy no mates " and never mixed or interacted with anyone.
I thought it was outrageous that a doctor,of all people,should put her young daughter at risk of medical implications through such a diet.

 

[Huno]

A third meat.. a third veg and a third carbohyrate.. simple

 

[Huno]

Sorry @holwellcourtfarm should it be 100% meat? You seem angry?