What qualifictions do you have?

Bald Rick

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Anglesey
You dont really need any formal qualifications but you MUST have

1. The ability to withstand fingerings

2. The ability to sleep peacefully at night knowing that the next day will bring a thousand problems

Farming is a sh!try job for little or no financial reward and certainly little or no respect from the wider public or politicians.

If I was you @Trudie I would retreat to a corner and give your head a wobble
 

Flatlander

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Arable Farmer
Location
Lorette Manitoba
Bald Rick you right. Wider public couldn’t give a sh1t about farmers. Here they were praising the farmers during the early days of covid for caring on as normal and still feeding them, now that fuel has gone back up and every man and his dog has upped their prices for everything it’s blamed on cost of living ie food and farmer are back to being gouging A holes.
 

Hilly

Member
We are looking to do this too on parts of the land.

I agree it's a necessity for the planet generally, but I do not agree that farmers should bear the brunt of this respobsibility.

Councils and large scale landowners don't have the same onus upon them and most of them don't even plant wildflower meadows never mind trees.

I live in Yorkshire near a number of massive parks. Bet they wont get planted up.

I'll get off my soapbox now!
Why is it necessary to plant trees for the future of the planet ?
 

DrWazzock

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Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
You dont really need any formal qualifications but you MUST have

1. The ability to withstand fingerings

2. The ability to sleep peacefully at night knowing that the next day will bring a thousand problems

Farming is a sh!try job for little or no financial reward and certainly little or no respect from the wider public or politicians.

If I was you @Trudie I would retreat to a corner and give your head a wobble
My uncle said similar to point no. 2. He always said there was damn all you can do about a problem lying in bed so you might as well just sleep.
 

DrWazzock

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Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
Reading all of the qualifications most of you guys have makes me feel a little inadequate lol. I left school with one O level and a handful of CSEs. Started full time on the farm at 16 and been plugging away ever since. I’m pretty handy at making and fixing things. Anything from rebuilding an engine to Renos in the house. Currently building the wife an indoor riding arena. I suffer from OCD and this has actually help me more than hindered. Very keen on crop production and pushing the limits of what can be grown here. To succeed in farming I think you need to eat sleep and breath farming. Have pride in your work but don’t be too proud to admit your wrong and try new ways or take advice.
Patients determination common sense and a sense of humour.
My father left school with no qualifications but his OCD got him further than any qualification ever could!
 

True North

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Yorkshire
Have a little lookee in TFF, when you're inclined. There are threads with the reasons for asking those questions ;)
Yeah, I am sure there are reasons for asking it.

Trying to bait me on a thread isn't going to work and my answer and opinion still stands as a general one as to the benefit of planting trees.
 

DrWazzock

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
Trees are fine while they’re alive and growing, it’s what happens after that that nobody seems to be able to answer.
Well its either

1) They rot down and get turned back into carbon dioxide by the organisms that eat them.
2) We burn them, turning them back into carbon dioxide.
3) Or we could put put millions of tons of them in the bottom of a lagoon and pile mud on top them for a million years. That way they won't get turned back into carbon dioxide unless somebody decides to burn them.

Now I wonder which is the most likely?!!!
 

Hilly

Member
Well its either

1) They rot down and get turned back into carbon dioxide by the organisms that eat them.
2) We burn them, turning them back into carbon dioxide.
3) Or we could put put millions of tons of them in the bottom of a lagoon and pile mud on top them for a million years. That way they won't get turned back into carbon dioxide unless somebody decides to burn them.

Now I wonder which is the most likely?!!!
I bet 50pence it’s option 2 .
 

Highland Mule

Member
Livestock Farmer
I bet 50pence it’s option 2 .

I agree, but if you’re turning them into CO2, you’re not burning as much coal, gas or oil - so the equivalent amount of carbon stays bound up in that instead.

Better still would be to capture the carbon on trees or similar and not burn anything but instead split uranium atoms, but that’s not going to happen.
 

melted welly

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
DD9.
Yeah, I am sure there are reasons for asking it.

Trying to bait me on a thread isn't going to work and my answer and opinion still stands as a general one as to the benefit of planting trees.

Trees fine for habitat for wildlife, or shelter, sure there’s various grants available too. But if I was you I’d plant them out the way, or plant something you can harvest, nuts, fruit, berries, plant a lot of hardwoods and you’ll devalue your land, for what? To get nods of approval from the local bobble hats when they wander through. Plus,the way public/political opinion is going, you’ll not be allowed to cut them down ever if you change your mind.

For carbon sequestration, if you’re of that mind, you’re better off grazing the ground, puts more back, plus you’ll get more £/kg for the produce off it than wood. The commonly used emission figures for livestock used by the vegans are utter shite and don’t bear any scrutiny. Rotate your grazing with some cropping. Trees be a 40yr rotation at least and worth bugger all at the end. We’ve looked into it and come to the conclusion that apart from the awkward corners where nothing grows, it’s not worth doing. Might still bang in some windbreaks/wildlife corridors though.

At the end of the day though, it’s your land, and your plans, so do what you want 🙂
 

primmiemoo

Member
Location
Devon
Yeah, I am sure there are reasons for asking it.

Trying to bait me on a thread isn't going to work and my answer and opinion still stands as a general one as to the benefit of planting trees.

Not sure it was baiting, but given the amount of collective puzzling about trees that has been done so far, it is interesting to know why people consider growing them to be more important than growing food.
 

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Red Tractor drops launch of green farming scheme amid anger from farmers

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As reported in Independent


quote: “Red Tractor has confirmed it is dropping plans to launch its green farming assurance standard in April“

read the TFF thread here: https://thefarmingforum.co.uk/index.php?threads/gfc-was-to-go-ahead-now-not-going-ahead.405234/
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