What ram for hoggs

[pine_guy]

Fella in our sheep discussion group recently announced he tubes every lamb born, runs about 600 commercials and would be high scan mule/lleyn type sheep. My face must have been priceless as he asked me did I not do the pedigree, I was eh no only when required lambs needing tubing wouldnt be much use to me fathering lambs outside in the commercial flock. Same fella dragged me around a ewe lamb sale recently to help him pick some replacements

Does that mean he milks all the sheep?

 

[Joe]

Does that mean he milks all the sheep?

yep that's what he said, I genuinely thought he was taking the pee but apparently not.

 

[irish dom]

Fella in our sheep discussion group recently announced he tubes every lamb born, runs about 600 commercials and would be high scan mule/lleyn type sheep. My face must have been priceless as he asked me did I not do the pedigree, I was eh no only when required lambs needing tubing wouldnt be much use to me fathering lambs outside in the commercial flock. Same fella dragged me around a ewe lamb sale recently to help him pick some replacements

More common than you think. Lambed 800 inside for a guy on my college placement. He wanted every ewe tipped upon her arse and suck the lambs. We had a good tight row and we got on great after that. He was convinced it was necessary or they would all die. Some bollix had told him when he was young and he just went with it. He still thinks I'm mental lambing all out "Ah sure they'll all be flat in the morning" Such shite really

 

[unlacedgecko]

The busy work people come up with to make themselves feel useful.

A mate of mine recently left a shepherding job after a big row. It was a couple of days post weaning and the ewes were inside to dry off on straw. The employer saw the sheep and told the shepherd their bags were too full, which was a cause of mastitis. She expected the shepherd to hand milk out each and every ewe.

 

[Woolless]

More common than you think. Lambed 800 inside for a guy on my college placement. He wanted every ewe tipped upon her arse and suck the lambs. We had a good tight row and we got on great after that. He was convinced it was necessary or they would all die. Some bollix had told him when he was young and he just went with it. He still thinks I'm mental lambing all out "Ah sure they'll all be flat in the morning" Such shite really

What might be worse is the system someone on here posted about where the ewes lambed outside but then each and every one was brought inside to mother up

 

[Estate fencing.]

What might be worse is the system someone on here posted about where the ewes lambed outside but then each and every one was brought inside to mother up

Quite a lot of people do that, totally metal isn’t it! Go out through the night in the pitch black to catch ewes and lambs and bring them inside!

 

[Joe]

What might be worse is the system someone on here posted about where the ewes lambed outside but then each and every one was brought inside to mother up

Or lambing them out during the day, and then bringing them in at night loads of people have told me they do that.
It’s the opposite of here with her dog, in fairness if was up to me the dog be outside at night too

 

[SteveHants]

What I'll do is adopt a system that's low stress for the ewe and then make it as stressful as humanly possible for the ewe........

 

[Estate fencing.]

Or lambing them out during the day, and then bringing them in at night loads of people have told me they do that.
It’s the opposite of here with her dog, in fairness if was up to me the dog be outside at night too

If it was up to my misses I would be sleeping outside at night and the dogs inside.

 

[unlacedgecko]

If it was up to my misses I would be sleeping outside at night and the dogs inside.

I feel that.

 

[Woolless]

What I'll do is adopt a system that's low stress for the ewe and then make it as stressful as humanly possible for the ewe........

It's quite incredible, combines the worst aspects of both systems.

 

[Nithsdale]

If it was up to my misses I would be sleeping outside at night and the dogs inside.

That's why I have no misses.

Dog outside and a king size bed to myself

 

[unlacedgecko]

What might be worse is the system someone on here posted about where the ewes lambed outside but then each and every one was brought inside to mother up

Or lambing them out during the day, and then bringing them in at night loads of people have told me they do that.
It’s the opposite of here with her dog, in fairness if was up to me the dog be outside at night too

A few years ago I lambed a couple of days for someone to repay a neighbour.

About 400 Texel and Suffolk mules (all bought in) put to some flavour of terminal. They were in a shed during the night, and on an adjoining grass paddock in the day.

There were pens in the shed and anything that lambed at night was put into a pen by the night lamber. I was on days. Every 30 mins I was to drive the paddock on a quad bike. Anything that lambed was to be caught and loaded into a trailer. Lambs were rung and tagged, ewes were mag boluses then the unit moved to a mothering up paddock. They didn't have a dog, so their ewes weren't used to dogs, so I wasn't allowed to use my catch dog. Cue lots of diving rugby tackles off moving quad bikes.

After 48hrs there they were loaded up and trailered to another paddock. Then that evening the mismothered lambs were collected and put in the pet pen to foster on.

Seemed like an awful lot of hard work and totally confirmed mules weren't the sheep for me.

 

[Estate fencing.]

A few years ago I lambed a couple of days for someone to repay a neighbour.

About 400 Texel and Suffolk mules (all bought in) put to some flavour of terminal. They were in a shed during the night, and on an adjoining grass paddock in the day.

There were pens in the shed and anything that lambed at night was put into a pen by the night lamber. I was on days. Every 30 mins I was to drive the paddock on a quad bike. Anything that lambed was to be caught and loaded into a trailer. Lambs were rung and tagged, ewes were mag boluses then the unit moved to a mothering up paddock. They didn't have a dog, so their ewes weren't used to dogs, so I wasn't allowed to use my catch dog. Cue lots of diving rugby tackles off moving quad bikes.

After 48hrs there they were loaded up and trailered to another paddock. Then that evening the mismothered lambs were collected and put in the pet pen to foster on.

Seemed like an awful lot of hard work and totally confirmed mules weren't the sheep for me.

I lamb 300 mules outside and only drive round them 3 times a day. I’ve got 8 single pens and only used 7 all lambing.

 

[Sheep92]

More common than you think. Lambed 800 inside for a guy on my college placement. He wanted every ewe tipped upon her arse and suck the lambs. We had a good tight row and we got on great after that. He was convinced it was necessary or they would all die. Some bollix had told him when he was young and he just went with it. He still thinks I'm mental lambing all out "Ah sure they'll all be flat in the morning" Such shite really

Man in my discussion group lambs 1500 from January to april and tubes every lamb, I prefer to let nature do the work

 

[M-J-G]

Man in my discussion group lambs 1500 from January to april and tubes every lamb, I prefer to let nature do the work

Some people must have wives that they hate or houses that are too warm

 

[andybk]

Man in my discussion group lambs 1500 from January to april and tubes every lamb, I prefer to let nature do the work

be interesting to know what breed of ewe and ram he uses , wonder if there is a suffolk in the mix somewhere ?

 

[Ysgythan]

Fella in our sheep discussion group recently announced he tubes every lamb born, runs about 600 commercials and would be high scan mule/lleyn type sheep. My face must have been priceless as he asked me did I not do the pedigree, I was eh no only when required lambs needing tubing wouldnt be much use to me fathering lambs outside in the commercial flock. Same fella dragged me around a ewe lamb sale recently to help him pick some replacements

ha ha ha what a knob

except

he knows how much and what quality of colostrum every ewe has

he can do something else (like sleep) rather than keep an eye on multiple ewes

I’d imagine healthy tubed lambs would take on more colostrum quicker, and time is key. Tubed lambs do not somehow forget how to suck.

he finds out problem cases sooner so can intervene sooner rather than dead or dying lambs being the indicator of a problem.

and ultimately, each to their own

 

[gwi1890]

What might be worse is the system someone on here posted about where the ewes lambed outside but then each and every one was brought inside to mother up

Yes never understood that, baffling, I was working on a house for a farmers son few years ago and his old man had 400 ewes all lambing outdoor no quad bike and a bad hip all he did all day was walk back and forth bringing ewes and lambs to the pens

 

[Joe]

ha ha ha what a knob

except

he knows how much and what quality of colostrum every ewe has

he can do something else (like sleep) rather than keep an eye on multiple ewes

I’d imagine healthy tubed lambs would take on more colostrum quicker, and time is key. Tubed lambs do not somehow forget how to suck.

he finds out problem cases sooner so can intervene sooner rather than dead or dying lambs being the indicator of a problem.

and ultimately, each to their own

No he’s a very nice fella and one hell of a farmer on lot tougher ground than me. I was just highlighting something that involved a level of work that isnt realistic or manageable tbh for most.