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What rate of slug pellets mixed in with seed.

Discussion in 'Direct Drilling General Discussion' started by Sprayer 1, Sep 11, 2018.

  1. Sprayer 1

    Sprayer 1 Member

    What are peoples thoughts on putting pellets mixed in with the wheat seed when DDing? Would be using ferric phosphate 3% pellets. Anyone doing this especially with a SimTech and at what rate.
    Last edited: Sep 11, 2018
  2. PSQ

    PSQ Member

    Scottish Borders
    Why bury pellets with the seed where the vast majority cant be found?
    Every pellet applied on the surface is available to protect the seed and emerging shoots.
    I know that people will reply with "slug motorways" and the like, but if the drill is doing it's job it should be covering the seed; if it's not closing the slot, you're surely either using the wrong drill, or using it at the wrong time (plastic limit).
    Last edited: Sep 11, 2018
  3. parker

    parker Member

    south staffs
    I sometimes apply ferric phosphate in with the seed normally 2 kg/ha with seed and then 5 kg on the top, has always worked well for me over the years, I have never found the pellets to be any more attractive than the wheat itself , but when needed do a very good job.
  4. bobk

    bobk Member

    I apply pellets when they're needed not as part of a routine . :cool:
    Minesapint and Kevtherev like this.
  5. Kevtherev

    Kevtherev Member

    Welshpool Powys
    Don’t put them in with the drill as they contain an attractant.
    Spin on after with quad bike
    If needed
  6. farmerm

    farmerm Member

    How big a slug problem do you have that you have to pre-empt an issue, especially in a september drilled crop? If I have to pellet its a fire fight situation, I have used 1 bag in last 8 years and that was a boarder line decisions on a late drilled field that was slow to emerge. The mountains of pellets my agronomist sells is always a mystery to me. That said I havent been growing rape and we have ploughed and power harrowed all the soil life to death...:sorry:
  7. Sprayer 1

    Sprayer 1 Member

    Only had to use pellets after beans. Last autumn slugs hollowed wheat out before it sprit and it had deter on as we were unable to roll due to sticky clay. We have rain every night for a week so just covering bases.
  8. average farmer

    North Notts
    done it before when I know slugs will be a problem, half bag of pellets to a bag of seed. Seems to work well.

    why would slugs come to the surface when they can feed below ground on the seed ?? maybe to mate but that's about it.

    Seed hollowing is far worse than grazing, agree with having them on top as well but a few in with the seed has go to help
  9. Work out how many pellets per m of row length you need
    If you drill has 6 rows per m width then 20 pellets per m squared
    Is 3 per m length
    seed at 250 seed per m sq will be 42 per m length

    Not finding many slugs in land destined for wheat
    But killed a lot after last weeks shower on newly 2 to 5 per m sq

    The key will be to put the seed in tight slow drilling if dry and hard or roll well
  10. I am still very skeptical about placing pellets with seed. Normally they are placed against damp soil and I worry about them not lasting very long.

    That said, this year we bought some Appeal 1.5% meta pellets which have a lot of bait points per kg (rather expensive though). Can't spin to 24m like we normally do so decided to put 1-1.5 kg/ha down with the drill. I hate applying pellets with the quad bike so putting on with the drill avoided this. I will keep an eye out this year and if I still can't see any effect then we'll have to go back to broadcasting where necessary.

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