What should I be charging per hour for tractor and man

[stevedave]

@Thick Farmer
Would be about 22to 25 down here

That would be at the top end in our neck of the woods.

 

[ollie989898]

That would be at the top end in our neck of the woods.

Wtf, really?

 

[Skimmer]

What should I be charging per hour for a 234 valtra and man (230 horsepower) with my own fuel, to pull someone's 18 ton silage trailer on grass.

Remember that needs to be with white diesel

 

[Celt83]

exactly get rich quicker driving a taxi!

a 5 year old mondeo fine for this job,(no twin beacons required either) investment vs return looks much more appealing

It seems to me that if your not in the twin beacon club you can’t haul silage round here

 

[holywell farmer]

Seriously now, can you run a modern 200hp tractor for £15/hour? Can someone show me some fag packet sums that make it work?

That's virtually working for nothing, no profit at that price

 

[Mouser]

how many acres are you reckoning an hour and at what cost per acre?

Too many and too much I reckon! 150 would be closer. But he makes a good point. Depreciation is same no matter how much your earning.

 

[Still Farming]

Not really, i was carting silage with a 1135 fastrac and 16t trailer last week. If my trailer was full at bottom of field. The 800hp chopper had other trailer full before i was out of gate, just a 25 acre field. The 220hp tractor behind was lapping me.

O right.
What they call it these days ? Silverstone harvest , F1 grass job ? Gran prix contractors?

 

[Mouser]

Im not familiar with rates of depreciation but it did occur to me that tyres are not cheap any more and were going to be £1/hr at least?

Be nearer £2 on that size tractor but in my experience they would be covered by the £10 depreciation.

 

[ollie989898]

Not really, i was carting silage with a 1135 fastrac and 16t trailer last week. If my trailer was full at bottom of field. The 800hp chopper had other trailer full before i was out of gate, just a 25 acre field. The 220hp tractor behind was lapping me.

I used to think 150hp was ample for this kind of job but having used a 270hp tractor silage and dung spreading and tanking it really is much much faster and saves a lot of time.

 

[windymiller]

This'll make some of you spit your tea out, our muck spreading contractor charged £27 per hour last year for 230hp tractor, 10 tone rear discharge, driver and fuel, makes no sense in us owning a spreader or even hireing one at that price.

 

[hotdog]

Wouldn't move for less than £40 per hour.....
When you go and trade that tractor in it will cost you £10-15 per clock hour to swap, self employed man £15, insurance, repairs, finance, tyres etc......
Some folk would do it as cant afford a man full time and hire him out to cover costs....

 

[Skimmer]

The tractor only needs to break even if it's otherwise stood doing nothing its depreciating anyway and if your doing nothing you may as well earn £10/hr for a 70hr week for driving it.
Doing it as a business is a different ball game.

 

[ollie989898]

The tractor only needs to break even if it's otherwise stood doing nothing its depreciating anyway and if your doing nothing you may as well earn £10/hr for a 70hr week for driving it.

Tractors depreciate per clock hour worked surely. What odds does the year make?

 

[ollie989898]

This'll make some of you spit your tea out, our muck spreading contractor charged £27 per hour last year for 230hp tractor, 10 tone rear discharge, driver and fuel, makes no sense in us owning a spreader or even hireing one at that price.

Fantastic. I bet he is busy! If you provide the fuel and a cream bun I guess he has to pay you £5/hr for the fun you provided??

This thread is just a giant mind-fudge to me.

 

[RalphH]

Where are you based as that will have a lot to do with the rate you will get.

South West based, I'm looking at no less than £42 an hour for now. Wanted to know what people with similar setups may be charging

 

[hotdog]

This'll make some of you spit your tea out, our muck spreading contractor charged £27 per hour last year for 230hp tractor, 10 tone rear discharge, driver and fuel, makes no sense in us owning a spreader or even hireing one at that price.

Tractors depreciate per clock hour worked surely. What odds does the year make?

A 2015 tractor with 2000 hours is worth a hell of a lot less than a 2018 model with same hours

 

[Chae1]

O right.
What they call it these days ? Silverstone harvest , F1 grass job ? Gran prix contractors?

They lifted 135 acres in 11 hours before the rain came on so whatever they call it I'm happy. Hasnt been a decent window to lift since.

Would have been 880hp carting off, 800hp on chopper. 260hp on rake, 480hp on pit!

 

[stevedave]

South West based, I'm looking at no less than £42 an hour for now. Wanted to know what people with similar setups may be charging

South west England or south west Wales?

 

[ollie989898]

A 2015 tractor with 2000 hours is worth a hell of a lot less than a 2018 model with same hours

Would you sooner an older tractor with less hours or a newer one with more hours on it?

 

[windymiller]

Fantastic. I bet he is busy!

Flat out, that's the drawback, getting him on the yard.