sherg
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- Location
- shropshire
We found that they'd be up and down every year, when we moved to aberdales they'd scan high every year but at least you could negatively flush them to try and control it
What sort of Lleyn?
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love the charx lamb. we also buy from Perf Lleyn - where did you get your char ram?
Two new rams this year from my neighbour plus one from a chap near Tiverton.
I also have rams from a guy near whiddon down.
these are the new ones.
If looking for rams I’d highly recommend my neighbour. He’s selling well over 100 rams a year of various breeds and hybrids.
Thanks for the recomendation. Who's your neighbour?
Richard Berry, if you look on facebook for Wicardo Flock you will see Some of his stock.
I’ll pm you his number.
pgk
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- Location
- south warwickshire
Son bought 15 chartex ewe lambs off Richard 2019, put to homebred chartex and have bred highest index terminal tup lamb across texels and chartex. Was 62kg of grass 4 weeks after weaning. We left those which lambed twins with one lamb only and all the lambs are of excellent quality. Looking at putting them to our very high index texel stock ram this time. Richard's stock has coped well on our pure forage commercial system.
pgk
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- Location
- south warwickshire
I suspect he and the offspring have had some discussion on the merits of his stock. I did note when bolusing them last weekend those which did not lamb have made enormous shearlings, those who lambed much more sensible size.When I see him later I’ll give him the feedback. Will make him very happy.
- Location
- North Antrim
I bought two lleyn shearlings yesterday, this seems to be the place to have them scrutinised (one was bought to tup ewe lambs). I couldn't get very close to them hopefully they'll be clear enough.
- Location
- Cornwall
Not just my sheep that trot to the other side of the field when the camera comes out then!
- Location
- North Antrim
They are a bit wary of me, I'll walk round them every day for a couple of weeks they should start to settle down.
- Location
- Cornwall
I usually think its better that way than something that comes up to you every time it sees you, until you want to catch them.
- Location
- North Antrim
Here's a better pic.
They aren't tame = good means trough feeding is unlikely
Not too big or leggy = good the leggy ones are shite
Not bad shape on them = good unlikely to be the awful lanky leggy type. More likely the more modern type I call them. Might have some texel in them somewhere
That's about all I can tell you through my tiny broken phone screen.
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- North Antrim
That's correct they are grass fed. I think the idea that another breed has been added in to change the type of a particular breed is overplayed. The reason being that it is very easy to do this using selection of desired type with in any given breed. For instance the tall lanky types you refer to were bred through selection for that type over a few generations, because the breed became popular as a compact efficient ewe breeders felt they had to bring out something a bit bigger and flashier to get an advantage on sale day. If another breed has been added even it's a few generations back it's easily seen in the animals head.They aren't tame = good means trough feeding is unlikely
Not too big or leggy = good the leggy ones are shite
Not bad shape on them = good unlikely to be the awful lanky leggy type. More likely the more modern type I call them. Might have some texel in them somewhere
That's about all I can tell you through my tiny broken phone screen.
The tall lanky ones were definitely bred by selection but I'm not 100% convinced that some of the shapier ones don't have texel in them. I've bought pure pedigree lleyn rams from society sales that have lambs throw texely looking. I've had one from a breeder who also kept easycares and half of that rams daughters shed their wool. Too much of s coincidence to be anything other than crossbreeding I think. Intentional or a genuine mistake it doesn't really bother me they were both very good rams. This is one of the sons I kept from the ram that threw texely lambs. You see what I mean by a bit of texel when you look at his back end. This was taken the day I took him out from the ewes when he was a shearling you can see where his harness had been.
- Location
- Cornwall
I've shorn pedigree lleyn ewes bred up from mules who still looked like crossbreds, its up to the breeder who registers them to be satisfy themselves females are correct to type. We never used texel on our lleyn ewes for that reason, I was always told the society frowned on a texel ram being on the farm. I have always used coloured faced rams for crossing
Always liked the texel type lleyns the best. Found breeding the bit of texel into them reduces their jumping ability significantly. Calms them down.
Said Id just stick up a few pics on this again of how the lleyns are going here, not breeding registered now, pics are of a home bred ram, he's a 3 year old now, very happy with him. A few ewe lambs and a few of the ewes. Still working on getting the lambing percentage down
