What the hell is going on?

[YorkshireAndrew]

If I heard the news correctly this evening since the beginning of 2019 only 3% (155) of illegal immigrants entering the UK have been sent back , this is unsustainable .

 

[Exfarmer]

How do you deport someone with no passport, you don't know where they're from?
If you prevent them from landing using force, many will die and CNN will destroy you.
I think the Aussies arrest all theirs and keep them in detention facilities (?) but they get a lot of stick for it.

The only solution I can think of is convince them Ireland is a better bet. Transport their boats across country for them and help them across?

Come on , even an uneducated Afghan is not going to fall for that one

 

[Ashtree]

But

Or Eire?

Sorry mate, we are full up. Tens of thousands of Brexit refugees from UK, have claimed ROI citizenship and many of those are moving here. Bloody driving property prices too into the bargain! Still, welcome. Cead mile failte! (A hundred thousand welcomes in Engerlish)

 

[kiwi pom]

So what do the French do differently that make all these people leave what I presume is a safe country and head off in a rubber dinghy to Blighty?

 

[le bon paysan]

The only way to stop people coming is to remove the reason they try to get here in the first place.

Rapid deportations for anyone without a passport or proof of residence. Big fines or prison for people who employ or house them. Implement an national identity card scheme. No ID card= no recourse to any kind of public service. Job done.

So, like France then?
It takes about 4 years, for a refugees family , to be allowed to join them in France under the family reunification scheme. This is after they have been granted asylum, which can take 2 years. Or more.
In the UK it takes 6 months after being granted asylum.
Where would you go?

 

[Muck Spreader]

So what do the French do differently that make all these people leave what I presume is a safe country and head off in a rubber dinghy to Blighty?

France already takes three times what the UK takes. The ones making for the Channel usually have relatives or friends already in the UK and English as a language and they know there is virtually no chance of being repatriated.

 

[Muck Spreader]

So, like France then?
It takes about 4 years, for a refugees family , to be allowed to join them in France under the family reunification scheme. This is after they have been granted asylum, which can take 2 years. Or more.
In the UK it takes 6 months after being granted asylum.
Where would you go?

With the summers we are now getting, you can see why Algerians are becoming popular here for outside work.

 

[ollie989898]

So, like France then?
It takes about 4 years, for a refugees family , to be allowed to join them in France under the family reunification scheme. This is after they have been granted asylum, which can take 2 years. Or more.
In the UK it takes 6 months after being granted asylum.
Where would you go?

Sounds like a good scheme. ID cards mandatory and if not get dumped on a ship destined for Africa.

 

[le bon paysan]

With the summers we are now getting, you can see why Algerians are becoming popular here for outside work.

A lot coming from the Sahel region as well. Be even more coming the way its going after 6 aid workers and their driver were killed today. Islamists moving in are driving the people out. Macron is sending more troops.

 

[Ashtree]

They know once in UK, they have taken back control.

 

[Wolds Beef]

Tongue in cheek!! All we need is a sharp stick as near the french coast as possible. They could then swim back whence they came!! Could that be possible?
WB

 

[czechmate]

But


Sorry mate, we are full up. Tens of thousands of Brexit refugees from UK, have claimed ROI citizenship and many of those are moving here. Bloody driving property prices too into the bargain! Still, welcome. Cead mile failte! (A hundred thousand welcomes in Engerlish)

Strange; it seems most of us are in France.

 

[czechmate]

Tongue in cheek!! All we need is a sharp stick as near the french coast as possible. They could then swim back whence they came!! Could that be possible?
WB

Good luck with your future trade talks around the world

 

[Hindsight]

Letter in todays edition of The Times

Sir, David Aaronovitch’s balanced article on the number of illegal immigrants crossing the Channel correctly notes that they are actually very small in number yet appear to be creating a disproportionate response from the government. Figures from the Office for National Statistics show that last year 404,000 immigrants were permitted to arrive here from non-EU states. One has to ask why the government is so keen to refuse entry to our shores to a few thousand refugees when welcoming so many others from all parts of the world.
Michael Johnson
London SE21

 

[czechmate]

Letter in todays edition of The Times

Sir, David Aaronovitch’s balanced article on the number of illegal immigrants crossing the Channel correctly notes that they are actually very small in number yet appear to be creating a disproportionate response from the government. Figures from the Office for National Statistics show that last year 404,000 immigrants were permitted to arrive here from non-EU states. One has to ask why the government is so keen to refuse entry to our shores to a few thousand refugees when welcoming so many others from all parts of the world.
Michael Johnson
London SE21

That’s an easy one, no?
There’s some load mouthed, outspoken racist with something of a cult following stirring up trouble and it just pays to keep him as quiet as possible

 

[Muck Spreader]

Letter in todays edition of The Times

Sir, David Aaronovitch’s balanced article on the number of illegal immigrants crossing the Channel correctly notes that they are actually very small in number yet appear to be creating a disproportionate response from the government. Figures from the Office for National Statistics show that last year 404,000 immigrants were permitted to arrive here from non-EU states. One has to ask why the government is so keen to refuse entry to our shores to a few thousand refugees when welcoming so many others from all parts of the world.
Michael Johnson
London SE21

There probably as terrifying as vikings to some folk.

 

[Bootneck]

Suppose you could probably go back a bit further. 1918 - 1920 and the end of the Ottoman Empire ollowed by the Balfour Agreement. Straight lines on maps drawn with a ruler but not allowing for traditional tribal areas and loyalties. And the war reparation that handed control of Arabia to the Saud family. Hey ho.

So you're saying that incorporating many different ethnic groups and tribes within a single country is a recipe for instability, corruption and poverty?
Interesting idea. So if we import thousands of migrants from all over the world to the UK you presumably agree that we will become a poorer, more corrupt and unstable country?

 

[czechmate]

So you're saying that incorporating many different ethnic groups and tribes within a single country is a recipe for instability, corruption and poverty?
Interesting idea. So if we import thousands of migrants from all over the world to the UK you presumably agree that we will become a poorer, more corrupt and unstable country?

Are you saying that all us ex pats in France are making it poorer, more corrupt and unstable? Or we don’t count as we are real pale (in winter at least)?

 

[Hindsight]

So you're saying that incorporating many different ethnic groups and tribes within a single country is a recipe for instability, corruption and poverty?
Interesting idea. So if we import thousands of migrants from all over the world to the UK you presumably agree that we will become a poorer, more corrupt and unstable country?

Hadn't thought about it really but I suppose you could be right. Thank you for pointing this out to me. Be a good idea to stop those Australian, New Zealander, South African vets and so coming in. And those french as well. I was horrified during the EU referendum to find that nearly 300,000 French nationals live in London. Bloody awful. Send em home. And don't get me started on the Poles, Latvians, Romanians that I come across every day on the farms here in the Fens. Sooner the government acts as promised during the referendum to send them packing back to whence they came the better. I will write to my MP about it tonight.

 

[czechmate]

Hadn't thought about it really but I suppose you could be right. Thank you for pointing this out to me. Be a good idea to stop those Australian, New Zealander, South African vets and so coming in. And those french as well. I was horrified during the EU referendum to find that nearly 300,000 French nationals live in London. Bloody awful. Send em home. And don't get me started on the Poles, Latvians, Romanians that I come across every day on the farms here in the Fens. Sooner the government acts as promised during the referendum to send them packing back to whence they came the better. I will write to my MP about it tonight.

Best get any medical ailments rectified first?