What used pickup?

Cowabunga

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Location
Ceredigion,Wales
I should say, I have a 2.2 TD 2012 ranger, 55K miles now after buying in 2013 with 4K miles on it.

Turning circle like the QE2, thirsty, rubbish 6 speed box. Bloody high for the vertically challenged. :unsure:

Great towing platform, good ride, nice motorway tool ;)

The 2012 should be the newer T6 Ranger. The one in the add is the older 2.4 model built in the joint Mazda factory with the Mazda engine and gearbox. A gearbox which is five speed and prone to lose fifth. Also very high geared in first and particularly reverse.
The Ford/Getrag manual gearbox in the T6 is the same one used in rear wheel drive Transits and the last Land Rover Defenders I fancy. Same 2.2 engine too. Not the most economical, I grant you, but about average for a pickup. Isuzu are more economical. Others not so much.
 

Deutzdx3

Member
I never bother inputting to pick up threads these days, but, here’s my tuppence worth:

Navara = apparently likely to snap.
L200 = in my experience, very uncomfortable to drive.
Ranger = ok, but thirsty in my experience.
Isuzu Rodeo = in my experience comfortable, economical, reliable

TSS

Navara's do snap but you can do this! And cut the rear out that is rubbish, make a template, draw it in cad, send that to the Cnc plasma and cut a brand new back end, strengthen it at the same time, increase the area that snaps which finally Nissan have now done on the 2018 models. [emoji85] bing band bosh you have a reinvented truck!
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Cowabunga

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Location
Ceredigion,Wales
Navara's do snap but you can do this! And cut the rear out that is rubbish, make a template, draw it in cad, send that to the Cnc plasma and cut a brand new back end, strengthen it at the same time, increase the area that snaps which finally Nissan have now done on the 2018 models. [emoji85] bing band bosh you have a reinvented truck!
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OMG!
Why bother? When Nissan buy them back for good money to scrap?
If they can't build them right in the first place, to last, why buy one in to one's own business and go through that palaver?
 

Deutzdx3

Member
OMG!
Why bother? When Nissan buy them back for good money to scrap?
If they can't build them right in the first place, to last, why buy one in to one's own business and go through that palaver?

They wouldn't buy it back. They refused as it is jersey registered and lots of other reasons. It's taken a day to get it that far, it'll take another day or two to piece the new bits in. I have no job for a new truck so as I have the facilities to do all this I may as well. Beats twiddling my thumbs.
 

Cowabunga

Member
Location
Ceredigion,Wales
They wouldn't buy it back. They refused as it is jersey registered and lots of other reasons. It's taken a day to get it that far, it'll take another day or two to piece the new bits in. I have no job for a new truck so as I have the facilities to do all this I may as well. Beats twiddling my thumbs.

You may well be in a minority there. Most would prefer not to buy trouble and strife in the first place I strongly suspect.
 

Deutzdx3

Member
You may well be in a minority there. Most would prefer not to buy trouble and strife in the first place I strongly suspect.

I've had the truck for 4 years. It snapped when I was towing a mini digger back to a friends farm. Granted I was over weight but hey, I don't carry a weigh bridge with me. It'll be stronger than it was and the rot isn't in the front bit of the chassis. It's sound as a pound. It's just the rear bit where the mud gets trapped. It'll do a few more years yet.
 
Location
Suffolk
Navara's do snap but you can do this! And cut the rear out that is rubbish, make a template, draw it in cad, send that to the Cnc plasma and cut a brand new back end, strengthen it at the same time, increase the area that snaps which finally Nissan have now done on the 2018 models. [emoji85] bing band bosh you have a reinvented truck!
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Will the insurance cover this work or will they consider it 'modification'? If you have a real proper sh1t-cart & someone suffers life-changing injurys I wonder how things will pan out.
I wonder if I'll be damned, abused & ridiculed for thinking & posting this? I have been in the past.......Mmmm as the forum moves into a more agressive mode.......as has been noticed by folk......
Ah, by the way I commend you for the work & enterprize for doing this quite major repair!
SS
 

GTB

Never Forgotten
Honorary Member
I've had the truck for 4 years. It snapped when I was towing a mini digger back to a friends farm. Granted I was over weight but hey, I don't carry a weigh bridge with me. It'll be stronger than it was and the rot isn't in the front bit of the chassis. It's sound as a pound. It's just the rear bit where the mud gets trapped. It'll do a few more years yet.
Fair enough I suppose if you can do the work yourself but for someone like me who'd have to pay a garage to do the work it's a non starter. And as above, not sure where you would stand if something did happen not that there's anything wrong with your welding I'm sure but you get my drift?
 

Robt

Member
Location
Suffolk
Stretch to £13500 and I'll sell you my newer T6 2013 Ranger automatic with less than 40,000 miles on the clock. Due for service and MOT at the end of this month when it will be five years old. Only bother been a EGR valve which was changed last Christmas. Serviced at half the recommended service intervals and the diff oil changed at 10,000 miles, just to pamper it. Also chassis been rustproofed with Bilt Hamber fluid and grommets fitted to obvious chassis holes since new to extend working life. Rear tyres at 25%, front 50%+
Out of curiosity , how much was that new? as it sounds very expensive.. fair play for trying.. has it been WaxOiled?
 

Weare Cham

Member
Location
N. Devon
I'm sure this topic has been discussed many a time but I'm afraid I'm here to post again...

I'm looking at buying a truck, the options I'm considering are;

(All around the 2010 age)

- Ford Ranger
-Mitsubishi L200
-Toyota Hilux
-Nissan Navara

I understand there will be many opinions of them all but I should get a picture of what the general feelings are.

Thanks in advance.
I'm in a similar situation but do not want a DPF as I don't tow (post Jan 97) or do motorway miles.
When did they fit them from?
 

Cowabunga

Member
Location
Ceredigion,Wales
Out of curiosity , how much was that new? as it sounds very expensive.. fair play for trying.. has it been WaxOiled?
Its one down from the top of the range with full leather, heated screen and whatever. Used Bilt Hamber wax rather than Waxoyl, as I explained in the earlier post.

I think it cost £21.000 near enough. The price is right as there is the same age Wildtrak manual for sale locally with slightly less mileage at an used dealer for £17500 and a Limited manual for £13000 but with 55000 miles.
 

Deutzdx3

Member
Fair enough I suppose if you can do the work yourself but for someone like me who'd have to pay a garage to do the work it's a non starter. And as above, not sure where you would stand if something did happen not that there's anything wrong with your welding I'm sure but you get my drift?

It'll go back together using a spec sheet from Nissan, that's why it's been unpicked along the original welds, it'll be bolted to our jig and the measuring system picks up on datum points, we have to be with in 5mm on the jig to be within oem spec.
 

Cowabunga

Member
Location
Ceredigion,Wales
I've been ridiculed my whole life, I'm used to it. Water off a ducks back now days. I own a body shop so I'm pretty well versed for rebuilding vehicles, it'll go on our jig and we then build it to oem spec sheet.

It won't have any affect on insurance as it'll be repairs according to oem specification.

Us ordinary ducks would think thrice before entertaining and probably dismissing such an enterprise.
 
Navara's do snap but you can do this! And cut the rear out that is rubbish, make a template, draw it in cad, send that to the Cnc plasma and cut a brand new back end, strengthen it at the same time, increase the area that snaps which finally Nissan have now done on the 2018 models. [emoji85] bing band bosh you have a reinvented truck!
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interesting post some more pics as you progress
 

Bruce Almighty

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Warwickshire
Stretch to £13500 and I'll sell you my newer T6 2013 Ranger automatic with less than 40,000 miles on the clock. Due for service and MOT at the end of this month when it will be five years old. Only bother been a EGR valve which was changed last Christmas. Serviced at half the recommended service intervals and the diff oil changed at 10,000 miles, just to pamper it. Also chassis been rustproofed with Bilt Hamber fluid and grommets fitted to obvious chassis holes since new to extend working life. Rear tyres at 25%, front 50%+

Why pay that much when we recently bought a 2012 Hilux for £9000 with 49,000 on the clock. We're really pleased with it.
 

Cowabunga

Member
Location
Ceredigion,Wales
Why pay that much when we recently bought a 2012 Hilux for £9000 with 49,000 on the clock. We're really pleased with it.
Why buy leather seats and auto transmission or a new vehicle? Answer, because we damn well want to.
I thought HiLux hung on to their value really well? Doesn't look like it here, unless it is an unloved king cab or single cab or even a 2wd? Single and extended king cab pickups do not hold their value well, because few people want them.Its well worth buying a double cab if buying new, because you will get more than the difference in new price back when selling it.
 

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