Wheat and Climate Change. A Global view....

[steveR]

Quite an interesting piece from Peter Zeihan.

Keep that land free of trees Chaps (and chapesses) good land will grow good crops, even in the future! Use SFI to build fertility, but NEVER trees...

 

[yoki]

I planted trees about ten years ago, but was comfortable with the fact that, in my remaining time anyway, that land would never again be in agricultural production

I have no regrets whatsoever about doing it, but I'd strongly advise anyone not to plant trees on any of their agricultural land unless they are similarly minded, and totally sure of their conviction.

 

[Spencer]

I planted trees about ten years ago, but was comfortable with the fact that, in my remaining time anyway, that land would never again be in agricultural production

I have no regrets whatsoever about doing it, but I'd strongly advise anyone not to plant trees on any of their agricultural land unless they are similarly minded, and totally sure of their conviction.

You may have been comfortable, but was it good land? Cause actually non of us own it, we’re just looking after it

 

[yoki]

You may have been comfortable, but was it good land? Cause actually non of us own it, we’re just looking after it

Yes it was good land, arable, medium to lightish loam, which in it's time has grown good crops of potatoes, cereals, and grass.

The tree people described it as a dry, fertile site.

They were particularly enthusiastic about it as it's the sort of ground that seldom gets planted with trees.

 

[steveR]

Yes it was good land, arable, medium to lightish loam, which in it's time has grown good crops of potatoes, cereals, and grass.

The tree people described it as a dry, fertile site.

They were particularly enthusiastic about it as it's the sort of ground that seldom gets planted with trees.

Let's be honest, the "tree people" are always enthusiastic about planting ANY trees

 

[yoki]

Let's be honest, the "tree people" are always enthusiastic about planting ANY trees

This is true.

The reason they put to me was that they get a bit fed up with the vast majority of planting on agricultural land being a wee corner or such like, generally of little use to man or beast, and it's done just for the money. No other thought put in to it, not really big enough to do much good, never gets maintained, never made any use of, highly compromised by what can be planted there, etc, etc.

So I think they were just pleased to find someone, who for better or worse, had made a conscious decision to turn an area of good farmland in to a proper, productive, broad-leaved woodland.

Or at least try to.

 

[steveR]

This is true.

The reason they put to me was that they get a bit fed up with the vast majority of planting on agricultural land being a wee corner or such like, generally of little use to man or beast, and it's done just for the money. No other thought put in to it, not really big enough to do much good, never gets maintained, never made any use of, highly compromised by what can be planted there, etc, etc.

So I think they were just pleased to find someone, who for better or worse, had made a conscious decision to turn an area of good farmland in to a proper, productive, broad-leaved woodland.

Or at least try to.

Well, as long as you are happy with this, that is all that really matters.

I have seen professionally planted and managed large area plantings that are a mess.... Local Council.

 

[yoki]

Well, as long as you are happy with this, that is all that really matters.

I have seen professionally planted and managed large area plantings that are a mess.... Local Council.

Yes, I know what you mean.

It's also why, despite no previous knowledge or experience of doing so, I planted the entire thing myself.

Also because the ash ban had just come in and they were all at sea regarding planting prescriptions, I was pretty much given a free reign to plant whatever I wanted as long as I stuck to listed "native" varieties.

It was a fair undertaking!

 

[devonbeef]

Let's be honest, the "tree people" are always enthusiastic about planting ANY trees

but not looking after them when glory of planting done