Wheat drilling 2019

[wuddy]

Looks dry going forward y not wait a week or 2 isn’t the first week Oct the optimum time

Will be holding off with the second wheats! Every Friday for the last 2 months the forecast for this area has been given as good for the following week only for us to get torrential rain by the Tuesday! Conditions are perfect here have got nearly 600 acres of first wheats in, hopefully get the last of the straw cleared up this week and get the last 200 acres in!

 

[ajd132]

this thread seems to be heading towards a what to do about blackgrass , reckon folks need to work out where it came from, what they or there forebears did that enhanced it and then workout the strategy to remove it, lets face its been around for generations and yet some folks have it in abundance others dont have it at all,

Simple, relying on chemical and going for max margin with continuous wheat.

 

[snarling bee]

Simple, relying on chemical and going for max margin with continuous wheat.

And drilling before middle October.

We have less trouble with BG in continuous wheats than with a winter rotation. Late spring drilling is the key.

 

[snarling bee]

We are as dry as the proverbial here. Good seedbeds everywhere, including for spring cereals, but zero BG germination. No drilling here for at least a month. Not sure what we are going to do apart from hedgetrimming and polishing the combine - probably mend gutters.

 

[ajd132]

And drilling before middle October.

We have less trouble with BG in continuous wheats than with a winter rotation. Late spring drilling is the key.

The waiting on spring for BG is a weird one. We bang in spring crops as early as we can in spring relying on competition to smother the BG out. We don’t use any herbicides either. We have found waiting for BG to chit leaves lower yield and the same amount of blackgrass.

 

[D14]

Looks dry going forward y not wait a week or 2 isn’t the first week Oct the optimum time

Optimum time is last week October into November from a BG point of view.

 

[snarling bee]

The waiting on spring for BG is a weird one. We bang in spring crops as early as we can in spring relying on competition to smother the BG out. We don’t use any herbicides either. We have found waiting for BG to chit leaves lower yield and the same amount of blackgrass.

I'm not an expert in spring crops. But we can rarely get on before mid March anyway, and we have sorted a really bad BG situation out by 2 x Spring Barley drilled at the mid to end of April and still got 7 t/ha, no herbicide (and shallow seedbed prepared in the autumn). There has always been a chit of BG in March before we drill so I am sticking with that approach.
In 2017 I only had one field to drill so I cross drilled it. I think that could have helped as well.

 

[farmerm]

having only started combining this week... hedges, straw/bales and seed cleaning are all in the way of cultivations... be alright until it turns wet

 

[ajd132]

I'm not an expert in spring crops. But we can rarely get on before mid March anyway, and we have sorted a really bad BG situation out by 2 x Spring Barley drilled at the mid to end of April and still got 7 t/ha, no herbicide (and shallow seedbed prepared in the autumn). There has always been a chit of BG in March before we drill so I am sticking with that approach.
In 2017 I only had one field to drill so I cross drilled it. I think that could have helped as well.

That’s fair enough, yield seems to drop off on this land quickly in April. We will drill anytime from the beginning of Feb. If there’s a gap we go.

 

[teslacoils]

Calendar means precisely dick if we don't get any rain and temps go back to the 20s.

 

[Brisel]

The early sown wheat doesn’t get treated much differently from the later drilled stuff at the end of the month/beginning of October!

A lot of this is down to location. The growing climate & day length in the Borders is very different to the South of England.

Velcourt's 1990s programme of starting osr drilling in mid August them straight into wheat from early September was great for getting lots of acres out of Quadtracs but not so good for keeping the spray bills down!

 

[wuddy]

A lot of this is down to location. The growing climate & day length in the Borders is very different to the South of England.

Velcourt's 1990s programme of starting osr drilling in mid August them straight into wheat from early September was great for getting lots of acres out of Quadtracs but not so good for keeping the spray bills down!

It’s the same old story the one system will never suit every farm! You know what works for you on your land and in your climate will never be right for everyone

 

[4course]

Simple, relying on chemical and going for max margin with continuous wheat.

we have a field of continuous wheat ,no blackgrass, it has to be introduced from somewhere methinks

 

[Case290]

Bale the straw

 

[Flat 10]

Simple, relying on chemical and going for max margin with continuous wheat.

We had BG 20 years ago and the farm wasn't in continuous wheat. I can remember some fields being put into set aside when it first came out to control BG.

 

[wuddy]

I know the view in the background, just trying to work out if it's the 9m drill on one neighbours ground, or the 12m on the other?

@PSQ Here’s an easy one for you!

 

[PSQ]

@PSQ Here’s an easy one for you!View attachment 833832

“Here’s looking at you” ?:

 

[Fish]

Made a start yesterday, new seed Gleam into ex osr ground.

 

[DrWazzock]

Drilled in January. 4 ton per acre. Little disease. Few weeds. Low chemical spend. No grass weed control. Good bushelweight. Light land though, after beet and sheep on the tops. Paraplowed, power harrowed, drilled. Crispin.

It was a dry winter. Normally on our heavy land 4th October is the cut off point.

 

[Brisel]

Made a start yesterday, new seed Gleam into ex osr ground.View attachment 833942

What ground prep and drill is that please? Rake and 750A?