Wheat drilling

[Goffer]

The problem with being a one man band with one main tractor is swapping around from plough to combi drill with press on front, so I've gone and ploughed all my heavy stuff, rather than two or three fields then drill those fields and repeat. I've also ploughed the headlands, which might turn out together a mistake.
The thing is though, how do you mind tillers make it work, as I have bought a set of discs this year, with the idea of not ploughing everything. The three fields I disced are, A now needing glyphosate, and B a wet pudding that will probably need ploughing now and following with the combi, so have I wasted my money or will the discs come into their own in a dry time?
I also thought I might disc after maize on the lighter land, but agronomist says plough because of fusarium risk, so how do you mind tillers make it work?

Planned rotation is the key to min- till as a one man band. Drilled 110 ac since sat afternoon , all after osr and peas. Subsoil 14 inch after combine dry out terra disc 1st week sept , spray off done

 

[DRC]

Planned rotation is the key to min- till as a one man band. Drilled 110 ac since sat afternoon , all after osr and peas. Subsoil 14 inch after combine dry out terra disc 1st week sept , spray off done

Yes, dont think I grow the right crops for it. Maize , oats and potatoes are breaks, with barley and some continous wheat . Wide range of soils from very light to heavy .

 

[4course]

Don't know what area you are or when you cleared it but why not plough it earlier get some weather on it

the idea is sound until you get a long dry spell and it goes to concrete not this year but how do you know when you plough it early what the weather will do so we find it best to part work it but dont do more than half so youve still got options to make progress

The problem with being a one man band with one main tractor is swapping around from plough to combi drill with press on front, so I've gone and ploughed all my heavy stuff, rather than two or three fields then drill those fields and repeat. I've also ploughed the headlands, which might turn out together a mistake.
The thing is though, how do you mind tillers make it work, as I have bought a set of discs this year, with the idea of not ploughing everything. The three fields I disced are, A now needing glyphosate, and B a wet pudding that will probably need ploughing now and following with the combi, so have I wasted my money or will the discs come into their own in a dry time?
I also thought I might disc after maize on the lighter land, but agronomist says plough because of fusarium risk, so how do you mind tillers make it work?

im not a min tiller and set in my ways so we plough but if its any consolation the discs which on our heavyish variable soil are usually in constant use have not been pulled out of the nettles this year and that which was ploughed early and part worked is now going well, that which was recently ploughed is testing my patience but history tells me to wait and the tine and press machine that we bought ( at a sale) this year has never been yoked up

 

[DRC]

the idea is sound until you get a long dry spell and it goes to concrete not this year but how do you know when you plough it early what the weather will do ,the land we have done that on andmade half a seed

im not a min tiller and set in my ways so we plough but if its any consolation the discs which on our heavyish variable soil are usually in constant use have not been pulled out of the nettles this year and that which was ploughed early and part worked is now going well, that which was recently ploughed is testing my patience but history tells me to wait and the tine and press machine that we bought ( at a sale) this year has never been yoked up

What I've ploughed last week has ploughed up better than ever, was hoping to drill it all this week. Early enough though, as we are often drilling later after maize with good results

 

[Tomtrac]

I cannot believe i am still awaiting for my barley/wheat seed off bloody HUTCHINSONS bought of them for years i get it treated with a manganese dressing does any one els get a manganese dressing

 

[bobk]

The problem with being a one man band with one main tractor is swapping around from plough to combi drill with press on front, so I've gone and ploughed all my heavy stuff, rather than two or three fields then drill those fields and repeat. I've also ploughed the headlands, which might turn out together a mistake.
The thing is though, how do you mind tillers make it work, as I have bought a set of discs this year, with the idea of not ploughing everything. The three fields I disced are, A now needing glyphosate, and B a wet pudding that will probably need ploughing now and following with the combi, so have I wasted my money or will the discs come into their own in a dry time?
I also thought I might disc after maize on the lighter land, but agronomist says plough because of fusarium risk, so how do you mind tillers make it work?

Logistics are the biggest issue for a one man band , I haven't turned an inch yet .

 

[Jon 3085]

I cannot believe i am still awaiting for my barley/wheat seed off bloody HUTCHINSONS bought of them for years i get it treated with a manganese dressing does any one els get a manganese dressing

Dress ours with manganese,barley seed coming tomorrow,had wheat last week , just need some dry weather to drill it .

 

[turbo]

My biggist trouble this year is I haven't worked my strong land yet,its still in the rape stubble with a good green cover on it witch is at least drying it out but I really need to move it soon if I am to get it drilled this year.

 

[Will 1594]

the idea is sound until you get a long dry spell and it goes to concrete not this year but how do you know when you plough it early what the weather will do so we find it best to part work it but dont do more than half so youve still got options to make progress

im not a min tiller and set in my ways so we plough but if its any consolation the discs which on our heavyish variable soil are usually in constant use have not been pulled out of the nettles this year and that which was ploughed early and part worked is now going well, that which was recently ploughed is testing my patience but history tells me to wait and the tine and press machine that we bought ( at a sale) this year has never been yoked up

4 course We have good results with ploughing it dry then get it to a drill able state then just leave it. Work it dry will stay dry Sown some heavy today that has been worked down since beginning August. The wet dry spells its come down like an onion bed

 

[4course]

im with you, but up here dont get much ground cleared until middle of august and usually still harvesting, im all for ploughing early and part working or even sowing a catch crop but we have to be able to keep sowing to ensure we finish around the 12/15th oct and if it doesnt rain on some of ours we end up spending a fortune on metal and diesel so a more flexible approach is needed and if it comes too wet which it is not far off now all we end up with is little clay men and poor esatblishment or later sowing and less yield

 

[d williams]

The problem with being a one man band with one main tractor is swapping around from plough to combi drill with press on front, so I've gone and ploughed all my heavy stuff, rather than two or three fields then drill those fields and repeat. I've also ploughed the headlands, which might turn out together a mistake.
The thing is though, how do you mind tillers make it work, as I have bought a set of discs this year, with the idea of not ploughing everything. The three fields I disced are, A now needing glyphosate, and B a wet pudding that will probably need ploughing now and following with the combi, so have I wasted my money or will the discs come into their own in a dry time?
I also thought I might disc after maize on the lighter land, but agronomist says plough because of fusarium risk, so how do you mind tillers make it work?

Keep things tight after working them a roller is a very underestimate tool
Been to drill for someone today on mint ill system top down roller not set tight enough has allowed soil to spunge rain up its going to take some drying

 

[Timbo1080]

Keep things tight after working them a roller is a very underestimate tool
Been to drill for someone today on mint ill system top down roller not set tight enough has allowed soil to spunge rain up its going to take some drying

+1 for the rollers. Disc twice, with a week or 3 between each pass, asap after straw is cleared. Roll well, often in between disc passes. It just reconsolidates the discing. It won't turn into a pudding if it's rolled well (unless you've disced it too deep to consolidate properly with the rolls). Then drill as late as you dare, with as wide a tine drill as you can lift......no discs or packer wheels on the drill, or your asking for trouble, and another major flush of weeds. Suited us for a very long time, but appreciate that very few will agree that it's possible.

 

[yellow belly]

When it is too wet it does not matter which cultivation system is used wait till it is dry enough
To wet ploughing may look ok but will still be too wet and costs more

Land that plough well will also notill well

Yesterday land dried out well but rain this morning made the top too wet for any field work to day 24 days with rain in September so far
A week without rain would make thing look good

 

[Douglasmn]

I don't find any difference in how quickly the land dries out after either ploughing or deep non inversion tillage. Am I the only one? In any case, all wheat here sown nicely into beautiful seedbeds. Hoping to see it up in rows soon. Plenty of moisture for the sprays to work at least which is good.

 

[SilliamWhale]

The problem with being a one man band with one main tractor is swapping around from plough to combi drill with press on front, so I've gone and ploughed all my heavy stuff, rather than two or three fields then drill those fields and repeat. I've also ploughed the headlands, which might turn out together a mistake.
The thing is though, how do you mind tillers make it work, as I have bought a set of discs this year, with the idea of not ploughing everything. The three fields I disced are, A now needing glyphosate, and B a wet pudding that will probably need ploughing now and following with the combi, so have I wasted my money or will the discs come into their own in a dry time?
I also thought I might disc after maize on the lighter land, but agronomist says plough because of fusarium risk, so how do you mind tillers make it work?

I know its no till and won't suit you but when I'm drilling cereals I tend to just drill in and spray the glyphosate and pre em together after in the Autumn. In the spring its different. So the aim is to just to drill and roll each field each year.

 

[robbie]

Question for the no tillers/min till chaps, how to you over come the problem of the ground going down to tight? I've got a field that I haven't ploughed since it had beet on it 3 years ago. It's light land and I pull a pigtail through it a time or two them harrow it down and drill but this year I had to go through with the chisel plough a foot deep to loosen it up as it had going down very hard underneath.

 

[franklin]

Question for the no tillers/min till chaps, how to you over come the problem of the ground going down to tight? I've got a field that I haven't ploughed since it had beet on it 3 years ago. It's light land and I pull a pigtail through it a time or two them harrow it down and drill but this year I had to go through with the chisel plough a foot deep to loosen it up as it had going down very hard underneath.

Too tight on the top, or underneath?

 

[robbie]

Underneath.

 

[Will 1594]

Underneath.

Only one thing , needs a leg through it if it's owt like here the sand hoes down tight and needs a leg through it

 

[franklin]

Generally, it doesnt. Certainly it is seldom dry enough a foot down to do any good with metal. I know it is hated, but a good strong OSR crop is the best way of getting through tighter layers. If we see any problems during harvest, we check with a spade then fix as needed with a flatlift / subsoiler. Anything subsoiled needs drilling earlier on so the roots can get down, or the rain just fills up the new big pores you have created.