Wheat Input costs per T 2019

lloyd

Member
Location
Herefordshire
It’s not very hard to look at our VC costs on gatekeeper and divide by weighbridge yield. It’s not exactly ‘showing our workings’.

Who said it was hard aslong as the figures
someone punches in the computer are accurate!
Perhaps theres been alot of 15tha crops.
 
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Clive

Staff Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lichfield
Who said it was hard aslong as the figures
someone punches in the computer are accurate!
Perhaps theres been alot of 15tha crops.



that why variable cost spend per tonne is a better measure than per Ha I reckon

You could grow a big yield at high cost or a small yield at low cost and get the same result - shows its a good measure of if you are farming to your yield potential or not I guess and is a great way to compare varieties
 
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Clive

Staff Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lichfield
What are you putting grain drying under?Fixed or variable.
Alot of wheat was dried early on.
The point I'm making is I could say £25t just to look clever
and without showing my workings you'd be none the wiser.

see post 1 - its pretty clear surely ? Grain drying is a fixed cost as far as any accountant would be concerned as is fuel, labour and repairs etc despite us all knowing they vary - so your are not REALLY being clever with your point##

quoted from post 1 the working to include as below for constancy

ALL variable costs per hectare on my wheat this year to include - Seed (plus royalty and cleaning if FS), Fertilizers (N P K FYM / composts etc) Herbicide, Insecticide, fungicides, growth regs, trace elements, desiccant, slug pellets


We can do a fixed cost comparison in another thread if you like but its a far more complex figure to work out
 
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Oscar

Member
Livestock Farmer
Winter Barley, California-
Pre drill glysophate ,bought in new seed, sewage cake ,MOP, N& S ,Fung, Herb, W Oats, T Elements - £53.18 / tonne [8.8t/ha]

Winter Wheat, Feed-Graham-

Pre drill glysophate ,bought in new seed, sewage cake, MOP, N & S, Herb, 4x Fung, T Elements - £56.20 / tonne [9.86t / ha]

Both dried weights/ weighbridge in central store. Serviced agronomist. No Blackgrass. Straw is all sold and get 5 t/ ha plus.
NB - sewage cake £2.53 / tonne for wheat and £2.84 / tonne on barley based on an average cost per year on a 1 in 5 year application
 

essex man

Member
Location
colchester
that why variable cost spend per tonne is a better measure than per Ha I reckon

You could grow a big yield at high cost or a small yield at low cost and get the same result - shows its a good measure of if you are farming to your yield potential or not I guess and is a great way to compare varieties
Can define what you mean by "yield potential" here?
 

Clive

Staff Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lichfield
Can define what you mean by "yield potential" here?

Some land is capable of 15t /ha other can only do 8 no matter how well you farm it

The skill of a good farmer imo is not growing big yields it’s farming and matching your costs to the land and climate potential

VC spend per tonne produced is a reasonable ( but not perfect of course) measure of that
 

Bob

Member
Location
Co Durham
see post 1 - its pretty clear surely ? Grain drying is a fixed cost as far as any accountant would be concerned as is fuel, labour and repairs etc despite us all knowing they vary - so your are not REALLY being clever with your point##

quoted from post 1 the working to include as below for constancy




We can do a fixed cost comparison in another thread if you like but its a far more complex figure to work out
Fuel and labour are variable costs for accounting purposes
 

lloyd

Member
Location
Herefordshire
see post 1 - its pretty clear surely ? Grain drying is a fixed cost as far as any accountant would be concerned as is fuel, labour and repairs etc despite us all knowing they vary - so your are not REALLY being clever with your point##

quoted from post 1 the working to include as below for constancy




We can do a fixed cost comparison in another thread if you like but its a far more complex figure to work out

VARIABLE COSTS vary with the amount produced.FIXED COSTS remain the same,no matter how much output a farm produces.A VARIABLE COST is a farms cost that is associated with the amount of produce
created...on the other hand,a fixed cost does not vary with the volume of production.

I'd change accountants !

Edit
Or a great accountant for their client.
 
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ajd132

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Suffolk
VARIABLE COSTS vary with the amount produced.FIXED COSTS remain the same,no matter how much output a farm produces.A VARIABLE COST is a farms cost that is associated with the amount of produce
created...on the other hand,a fixed cost does not vary with the volume of production.

I'd change accountants !
I’m with Clive, our accountant does it the same as his.
 

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