Wheat with Clover

[Jerry]

What would your strategy be with this, its wheat after a 3 year grass/clover ley. Not had any N yet and was grazed for a month with sheep. The clover is still there and feeding the wheat I would imagine?

 

[unlacedgecko]

What would your strategy be with this, its wheat after a 3 year grass/clover ley. Not had any N yet and was grazed for a month with sheep. The clover is still there and feeding the wheat I would imagine?

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What variety of clover? If it's not going to outcompete the wheat just leave it. Free N for growing wheat and a good grazing aftermath post harvest.

 

[Jerry]

What variety of clover? If it's not going to outcompete the wheat just leave it. Free N for growing wheat and a good grazing aftermath post harvest.

I’ll have to ask @Great In Grass ss it was one of his mixes.

 

[bobk]

I’ll have to ask @Great In Grass ss it was one of his mixes.

Ally , job done

 

[Nearly]

Ask the powers that be to fund a trial.
How big is field?
It could be the future.
Watching.

 

[Flatlander]

will the clover actually release nitrogen while it’s that small or at all until it’s destroyed. We grow a fair chunk of soybeans and left over residual N is rarely as much as thought. It fails to supply all its own needs andwill scavenge anything extra it can find, I wonder if the wheat is growing Off destroyed nodules from tillage.

 

[bobk]

will the clover actually release nitrogen while it’s that small or at all until it’s destroyed. We grow a fair chunk of soybeans and left over residual N is rarely as much as thought. It fails to supply all its own needs andwill scavenge anything extra it can find, I wonder if the wheat is growing Off destroyed nodules from tillage.

Yep ,. kill it you'll be cossing at harvest with all that green sh!t going up the hole

 

[Flatlander]

Yep ,. kill it you'll be cossing at harvest with all that green sh!t going up the hole

I cut 80 acre fir a neighbour that had alfalfa in it and was a mess inside the combine. Green puke coming from the rear end. very rarely will a crop yield ti its full potential when sharing the ground with another or a weed. Wouldn’t look pretty after a wet growey july august.

 

[jack6480]

What would your strategy be with this, its wheat after a 3 year grass/clover ley. Not had any N yet and was grazed for a month with sheep. The clover is still there and feeding the wheat I would imagine?

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I’ve got some at a similar stage, it’s just had 150kg of Can and will try and knock it back with a bit of herb later on in the year. But looking very promising

 

[Jerry]

Ask the powers that be to fund a trial.
How big is field?
It could be the future.
Watching.

25 acres. Skyfall on a seed contract.

 

[glasshouse]

What would your strategy be with this, its wheat after a 3 year grass/clover ley. Not had any N yet and was grazed for a month with sheep. The clover is still there and feeding the wheat I would imagine?

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The clover will only feed itself, not the wheat

 

[Luke Cropwalker]

I would leave the clover until the wheat required some N and then spray it out with an S.U. or hormone herbicide. The clover will not supply N to the wheat while it is still growing, any early N fertiliser will only make the clover fix less N.

 

[AndrewM]

think clover only releases its N when parts of the plant die off and rott or are eaten and passed out. sometimes get it in winter beans as i also have grass in the rotation. its ok when you can cut the stubble above it, but a pain anywhere where the crop lodges.

 

[Jerry]

I would leave the clover until the wheat required some N and then spray it out with an S.U. or hormone herbicide. The clover will not supply N to the wheat while it is still growing, any early N fertiliser will only make the clover fix less N.

Certainly does nit need N at the moment I would say.

 

[organicguy]

Why remove a free source of nitrogen if you don't need to?Pre harvest roundup if needed, it might be worth loosing the seed contract if you can save the AN.

 

[milkloss]

If it's white clover then I guess it won't be fixing any nitrogen much. Make better silage though.

 

[redsloe]

I have a similar 3 year clover ley. A bit of clover but more AMG. Sprayed with hatra earlier in the week and 180kg/ha extran 3 weeks ago. Not looking so bold in a keen East wind.

 

[Wigeon]

This is what all the cool kids are trying to achieve.

(Me included but always failing miserably)

Speak to Innovative Farmers.

 

[hollister]

Are there any papers out proving/disproving the release of nitrogen to a companion crop? If there is a fungal link formed between the cereal root and the clover root then there will be some form of transfer and symbiotic relationship? If its a small white clover it wont get over a foot tall so shouldn't bother combine?

 

[Sid]

think clover only releases its N when parts of the plant die off and rott or are eaten and passed out. sometimes get it in winter beans as i also have grass in the rotation. its ok when you can cut the stubble above it, but a pain anywhere where the crop lodges.

Clover release N from the root nodules.

All plants release N as the die. Even the straw from arable crops