Wheeling Spring Barley

[Happy]

So once again I am getting wheelings showing in my spring barley crop.
The best bits of the field are always where I have ran on the ploughing with fert spreader prior to 3m combi drill with 3m front press. These bits are noticeably taller and thicker.

Obviously needing something to firm up the rest of the field to make it like where the spreader tractor has run.
Would a good heavy set of 24” Cambridge rollers with paddles do this are are you really looking at a unipress type machine to achieve this effect?
Saw a set of Cambridge Rolls on Cross engineering stand at highland show which had rows of jackpot tines and paddles on them. Wondering if that could be getting near to unipress effect?

Always yield between 2.75-3t/acre but frustrating knowing that if the rest of the field could be as good as these bits it would be better.
Usual practice to have fields ploughed by January with sowing late March/first half April.

Grateful for any thoughts & advice.

 

[oil barron]

Is it the consolidation, or is it because the wheel marks in the ploughing make troughs to catch more fert?

 

[PSQ]

Saw a set of Cambridge Rolls on Cross engineering stand at highland show which had rows of jackpot tines and paddles on them. Wondering if that could be getting near to unipress effect?
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I can vouch for the Cross Engineering rollers, as I bought a set at the Highland a few years ago. EN8 shafts, forged steel rings, S tines and paddles, built like a tank.
I sometimes wonder if they aren't a bit too heavy for rolling after the drill, but your post makes me think they're probably about right!

 

[Chae1]

Err, stating the bleed'in obvious,
stop ploughing

Does spring barley do well under no till? i always got the impression it was difficult going on posts on here.

 

[Happy]

Err, stating the bleed'in obvious,
stop ploughing

Wondered how long it would take for that solution to come up

 

[TheEarlOfMoray]

Is it the consolidation, or is it because the wheel marks in the ploughing make troughs to catch more fert?

My thoughts also

 

[Happy]

Is it the consolidation, or is it because the wheel marks in the ploughing make troughs to catch more fert?

Hadn’t thought of that. Guess it could be that. Rolling pre fert may just create more wheelings for it to settle into then.

 

[Chae1]

By the time power harrow been through it would be mixed more in my opinion and wouldn't see lines.

Do you take out fert marks with grubbers?

We've very light land and i rolled half a field pre drilling and saw no difference in following crop.

 

[oil barron]

Hadn’t thought of that. Guess it could be that. Rolling pre fert may just create more wheelings for it to settle into then.

If it was consolidation, you would see every run of the drill, unless you are sowing with dual wheels

 

[Happy]

If it was consolidation, you would see every run of the drill, unless you are sowing with dual wheels

I am seeing more of that this year.
Pic in post above was this time last year.
Would say it is more noticeable in the softer lighter land which fits in with the fert collecting idea.

Maybe just have to live with it.

 

[Spencer]

Is it actually better? Or is it slightly more advanced than the rest of the crop? Does it stay visible right to harvest ?

 

[jack6480]

Does spring barley do well under no till? i always got the impression it was difficult going on posts on here.

Mine this year is a little patching in places, but not where the ground is heavier. So unsure as to the reason

 

[Cowcorn]

Back in the day before comb drills became popular ,, we would have a tine harrow with crumbler rollers working in front of the power harrow and the MF combine drill . All ttactors on dual wheels and a fine very firm seedbed . The barley would be thick and even ,you could put a ruler on it . I have seen the symptons you describe after combi drilled crops and i have found that either rolling or harrowing before the combi is a big help. I f labour was not so scarce and expensive i would go back to combine drilling and establish spring crops the old way , mind you the weather would have to be good but then the old guys always said " dust for barley " .

 

[Happy]

Is it actually better? Or is it slightly more advanced than the rest of the crop? Does it stay visible right to harvest ?

No, I wouldn’t say it is still usually still visible come harvest.

 

[Spencer]

No, I wouldn’t say it is still usually still visible come harvest.

Just wondering wether the crop is slightly more advanced because of extra consolidation, so those areas set off quicker .. maybe nothing to worry about.,

 

[Zebbedee]

Might be an idea to do some leaf testing. Eg test the good bit and the shorter bit next to it that may throw up some clues as to what the difference is

 

[Colin]

Is it the consolidation, or is it because the wheel marks in the ploughing make troughs to catch more fert?

Extra fert in wheelings plus better consolidation underneath

 

[5020man]

Hi.
If you expand the pic and look up the tramline the
wheelings of the drill tractor are visible.
Its caused by consolidation of the seed bed.

5020 man.

 

[JJT]

Is it actually better? Or is it slightly more advanced than the rest of the crop? Does it stay visible right to harvest ?

No, I wouldn’t say it is still usually still visible come harvest.

Drilled slightly shallower where fert wheelings were, so came through slightly sooner?

 

[Will 1594]

Can any one explain . Why you can seewhere 24 m tramlines have been now a neighbour has moved to 36 and field has been subsoiler ploughed and worked down well and can still see old onion bed wheel marks from previous season in another field, and not destoned as no stone in the sand