When to change car ??

[FonterraFarmer]

No idea but when I was back in England last summer, all be it briefly, I was amazed at the number of new vehicles on the road and the low second hand price of older models. Higher end stuff too, Audi, Bmw, Range rovers etc.
Obviously not all farmers, mostly those pesky townies, but the country lanes seemed full of new pickups and Landrovers.
Is it just the salt that kills cars there these days? Sounds like leasing and contract hire is more popular there now.
I read somewhere the average age of the UK car fleet is around 7.5 years.
May be wrong but I think the average here is 14 years.

When I was in the UK , ten years after my sister was there, none of the cars in her pictures were there, they were all gone!!! Yes the average car age has gone over 14 years here, but I'm stuffing up all the averages as all the utes here are double that and a bit more!

 

[FonterraFarmer]

If anyone wants to take a punt at the 08 plate outback on Autotrader for £1650 I could fix them up with another engine. No connection with the ad but it does seem a bargain even to me. Unfortunately would end in divorce if I got another one.

Go on put in a Tribeca 3.6!!!

 

[roscoe erf]

Just what do you people in the UK do to cars? Outbacks and Legacys here and in Aussie will do 400,000km no problem at all.

don't paint us all with the same brush

 

[Courier]

Must have got to many zero's after that 4

400,000 is only 250,000 miles [emoji15] What's the problem ?

 

[renewablejohn]

400,000 is only 250,000 miles [emoji15] What's the problem ?

Before you lot came along the dependability and reliability of Subaru was a well kept secret resulting in an awful lot of proper 4WD car with HiLo box costing peanuts. To date have always paid less than 2k obviously not for much longer.

 

[FonterraFarmer]

don't paint us all with the same brush

No I don't, but my previous job (many years ago) was at a car rental/fleet lease company......in London
Ever wonder why milking cows has more appeal?

 

[Lincsman]

No idea but when I was back in England last summer, all be it briefly, I was amazed at the number of new vehicles on the road and the low second hand price of older models. Higher end stuff too, Audi, Bmw, Range rovers etc.
Obviously not all farmers, mostly those pesky townies, but the country lanes seemed full of new pickups and Landrovers.
Is it just the salt that kills cars there these days? Sounds like leasing and contract hire is more popular there now.
I read somewhere the average age of the UK car fleet is around 7.5 years.
May be wrong but I think the average here is 14 years.

Its down to adverts for cars at £150/month, the plebs dont realise there is a deposit in front of that, which usually takes all the trade in value, after 3 years they dont have any residual value so have to sign for another. In the mean time the used car market is getting "fixed" by auction companies, and car repairs are ramped up to cover posh garage buildings... but everyone is happy it seems!

 

[Clive]

You only live once and it is a short time. If you can afford it, go buy what the hell you like and sod the jealous crowd. Its as simple as that. Only in the UK and possibly Ireland do you find failure and poverty glorified and celebrated and success and wealth derided like some contagious disease.
Lots of people like 'nice things', not for show, but for their own sake. Lots of other people are paid to make and sell those nice things. A lot of tax is raised from those nice things. Thus the success and the trade in nice things spreads the wealth and success down through society, dragging everyone up so they too can purchase nice things, be they cars or a steak or even a lamb dinner , or more.

In rural areas the farmer is the one, when he has money, that spends it locally. No matter whether its a new tractor or a new car, the result is the same, his money, or a proportion of it goes in tax and in keeping local people in employment so that they too can buy that farmer's produce and spend their wages locally, or wherever and on whatever they desire, such as a local house maybe. Its their choice.

No money or poverty pay and people spending as little as possible, means misery for many.

Well said - the uk is terrible in this respect, jealousy is a very ugly English thing

 

[Penmoel]

Well said - the uk is terrible in this respect, jealousy is a very ugly English thing

No there is plenty of it in Wales too

 

[Princess Pooper]

I don't mind anyone having a flash car if they can afford it. It it floated my boat I could pay cash for a new car. What really gets on my wick is guys like a near neighbour of ours who drives around in a Porsche but has in the past gone bankrupt owing lots of small local businesses money, or farmers who are always moaning about no money in the job and have a new expensive vehicle that they don't really need. Farming in NZ is unsubsidised. Perhaps there is a message there.

 

[Pieces_of_Eight]

I could pay cash for a new car.

Just try it. The dealer/franchise will politely decline.

Cash payments over a certain amount (E15,000) must be reported to HMRC

Buying a second hand car with a wad of cash might work, depending on the value (and the dealer).

 

[Princess Pooper]

Just try it. The dealer/franchise will politely decline.

Cash payments over a certain amount (E15,000) must be reported to HMRC

Buying a second hand car with a wad of cash might work, depending on the value (and the dealer).

Yes as an accountant I know all about money laundering regulations. OK what I mean is not on finance, so it is not jealousy that someone has a new car and I couldn't afford one. I just choose not to have one. Now a lovely picture on the wall - that's something that gives me hours of pleasure over the years and I will gladly spend money on..

 

[Pieces_of_Eight]

Y Now a lovely picture on the wall - that's something that gives me hours of pleasure over the years and I will gladly spend money on..

I've never sold a car and made a profit, but my art collection is worth more than I paid for it. My taste isn't everyones' cup of tea, but I've bought something that I enjoy looking at

 

[Lincsman]

Just try it. The dealer/franchise will politely decline.

Cash payments over a certain amount (E15,000) must be reported to HMRC

Buying a second hand car with a wad of cash might work, depending on the value (and the dealer).

Paying "cash" usually means put your debit card in a machine, its what i do.

You have to get the price before you let on you are going to do this as they are banking on the finance commission payment back to them.

 

[GOPHER89]

Ran a 1.9 caddy pickup for 4 years I bought for spares or repairs. Got it for £100 spares or repairs new gearbox needed. It didn't, it needed a new breather valve for a few quid.
Sold it after the 4 years when it was knackered for 350 cash the same day it was advertised on gumtree to a lad who wanted to put a new engine in it and tart it up.
Doesn't go that way very often lol

 

[Pieces_of_Eight]

You have to get the price before you let on you are going to do this as they are banking on the finance commission payment back to them.

Very true. It breaks their heart to miss all the finance.

Just try paying cash for a sofa in DFS!

 

[joe soapy]

No idea but when I was back in England last summer, all be it briefly, I was amazed at the number of new vehicles on the road and the low second hand price of older models. Higher end stuff too, Audi, Bmw, Range rovers etc.
Obviously not all farmers, mostly those pesky townies, but the country lanes seemed full of new pickups and Landrovers.
Is it just the salt that kills cars there these days? Sounds like leasing and contract hire is more popular there now.
I read somewhere the average age of the UK car fleet is around 7.5 years.
May be wrong but I think the average here is 14 years.

Its all the fault of the Welsh, specificaly the "Joneses"

 

[marcusthehat]

As a Cupid Stunt bred off a local farming family and married on a high ranking Civil Servant stated one night, in respect of someone accusing her of "keeping up with the Joneses."
" No, No!, We are the Jones's"
Ah near boked.
Cos she was deadly serious

 

[country_gal]

Everyone has different

As a Cupid Stunt bred off a local farming family and married on a high ranking Civil Servant stated one night, in respect of someone accusing her of "keeping up with the Joneses."
" No, No!, We are the Jones's"
Ah near boked.
Cos she was deadly serious

cringe

 

[Paddington]

Only once sold a car privately for profit, a Peugeot 205 diesel, bought for £2K sold for £2.5K. Nothing wrong with it and never spent any money on it apart from servicing, just fancied a 4x4. Girl turned up, had a test drive and said she wanted it but would need to check with her boyfriend. Then two pikies turned up and offered cash, didn't want a test drive. I said they could have first refusal and they waived £3K under my nose Got a bit heated then until I said the young lady had put in an offer first and was just waiting until her policeman boyfriend came off duty to come and collect it. Pikies suddenly remembered they had seen a cheaper one elsewhere and left.