When to glyphosate osr volunteers

Will7

Member
Drilling on the green sounds great but have been severely bitten in the past by slugs so i'd proceed with caution on a small area until your happy about what works on your land. I'm seeing exactly the same as your photos in terms of slugs in stems etc even though volunteers only show minimal grazing so decided to spray off yesterday as i think we'll get an infinitely better kill pelleting ahead of drilling as well as inevitably after too. Ground like concrete too; need rain.

I agree, lovely idea but I have tried 3 times, and failed 3 times. Not again
 

tr250

Member
Location
Northants
Thanks for all the advice I’ve decided to spray
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In notill ground drill on the green spray off post drilling
Slugs spend all there time on rape volunteers

I learnt this over 20 years ago by accident when using a power Harrow combi
Drilled sprayed after drilling was concerned about slugs but had no problems
But did not use it until recently
 

Brisel

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Arable Farmer
Location
Midlands
Spray em with kyleo but beware sowing intervals. Melts em down fast. Of course you need Li700 with it.

7 day interval for cereals on the Kyleo label. Unless dealing with weeds gly won't touch e.g. willowherb or cranesbill, I find a higher rate of generic glyphosate is just as quick to burn it down. I agree that acidifier adjuvant like Validate or Li700 helps speed the job up though you've got to be careful that the adjuvants don't stress the plant so that it doesn't take the glyphosate in...
 

tr250

Member
Location
Northants
Update on field that I asked about in op! I sprayed it off but didn’t get to drill it with all the wet weather now it looks a bare sorry mess wished I had left it. Could of also done with the sheep grazing over winter if I’d known it was going to be a spring crop
 

charlie@horizon

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Arable Farmer
Location
Suffolk
Hi all, not one mention of a straw harrow?? Not sure if they're now deemed as 'un-cool' on here but in my mind they are an essential tool for keeping the slug population down in osr stubbles. It is also a very good tool at encouraging a weed chit with that lovely, friable osr top soil and long window between osr and ww.

Greener than slug pellets, greener than glyphosate and also a very cheap operation.

You might think I'm just trying to flog straw harrows but I'm already hearing reports from users of all drill types that 1st wheat crops are being lost where osr stubbles haven't been managed properly.
 

Brisel

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Midlands
Hi all, not one mention of a straw harrow?? Not sure if they're now deemed as 'un-cool' on here but in my mind they are an essential tool for keeping the slug population down in osr stubbles. It is also a very good tool at encouraging a weed chit with that lovely, friable osr top soil and long window between osr and ww.

Greener than slug pellets, greener than glyphosate and also a very cheap operation.

You might think I'm just trying to flog straw harrows but I'm already hearing reports from users of all drill types that 1st wheat crops are being lost where osr stubbles haven't been managed properly.

2 passes of one of your rakes and I'm still feeding slugs 3x after drilling! This has been exceptional and normally I'd have been able to roll after sowing and drill early enough that the crops has a few tillers on by now instead of having been put into wet ground in late October. I agree that a well timed rake pass is worth at least half a dose of slug pellets. I know Jeff C has a pelleter because I've seen it in person. I don't buy the argument that a rake is greener - more fuel/ha and more hp/ha than a slug pelleter but yes, no active ingredients other than diesel in the tank.
 

Badshot

Member
Location
Kent
Update on field that I asked about in op! I sprayed it off but didn’t get to drill it with all the wet weather now it looks a bare sorry mess wished I had left it. Could of also done with the sheep grazing over winter if I’d known it was going to be a spring crop
I've had sheep grazing mine off this year.
Last two fields are wet now though.
Was never going to drill before mid November for blackgrass reasons, could now do with drying up a bit.
 

ajd132

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Suffolk
Hi all, not one mention of a straw harrow?? Not sure if they're now deemed as 'un-cool' on here but in my mind they are an essential tool for keeping the slug population down in osr stubbles. It is also a very good tool at encouraging a weed chit with that lovely, friable osr top soil and long window between osr and ww.

Greener than slug pellets, greener than glyphosate and also a very cheap operation.

You might think I'm just trying to flog straw harrows but I'm already hearing reports from users of all drill types that 1st wheat crops are being lost where osr stubbles haven't been managed properly.
I’ve drilled into big osr volunteers and havnt has a problem in the past, next year I will plant a summer catch crop into osr stubble and put wheat into that. It might be a disaster. Consolidation is really important which can sometimes be difficult behind the Strip till drills
 

Samcowman

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Cornwall
I’ve drilled into big osr volunteers and havnt has a problem in the past, next year I will plant a summer catch crop into osr stubble and put wheat into that. It might be a disaster. Consolidation is really important which can sometimes be difficult behind the Strip till drills
I did this this year into osr stubble. Oats, peas and Phacelia and grazed it with the sucklers. Could have left out the Phacelia as they didn’t really like it but would have been put back into the soil. Would definitely do it again.
 

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