Where have the slugs gone ?

Adeptandy

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Arable Farmer
Location
PE15
It's been wet and mild, other than barley nothing got rolled here ............................. yet no a single pellet used? not a sign of even the slightest bit of grazing

Just me ? or is this just what farming without OSR is like ?
How do you rotate without OSR, 2nd Wheats here are 2t/a on a good year ? WW-WB- ?( OSR )- WW -S Beans is what I'd like to do, trying W Linseed in the OSR slot, but not all the OSR area to start with :scratchhead:
 

Badshot

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Innovate UK
Location
Kent
It's been wet and mild, other than barley nothing got rolled here ............................. yet no a single pellet used? not a sign of even the slightest bit of grazing

Just me ? or is this just what farming without OSR is like ?
No slugs post osr either.
Few post beans and linseed ironically.
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That's wheat into lots of cover/osr vols.
 
seen a few on wheat after beans but not enough damage to warrant any concern
after linseed and borage there is enough greenery to keep the few slugs happy

loose soil gives the slugs protection

since we have been notill i have only used pellets when we planted osr
last year all osr failed
we have not had any damage in wheat planted on the green after osr

the key with slugs is a firm closure of the notill slot which on heavy land using a disc drill is straight forward
earlier drilling and no seed dressing gets the wheat going quicker

ontop of this there are more preditors in a notill field

pigeons and rooks and other birds predate the slugs in the early morning
plus with no soil disturbance pre drilling the ground living preditors have a go at the slug eggs
 

farmerm

Member
Location
Shropshire
How do you rotate without OSR, 2nd Wheats here are 2t/a on a good year ? WW-WB- ?( OSR )- WW -S Beans is what I'd like to do, trying W Linseed in the OSR slot, but not all the OSR area to start with :scratchhead:
If we forget last year... 2019 harvest our 2nd wheats where almost on parallel to the firsts, in some cases better :scratchhead: I find we usually have better results with second wheats than our Barley. Currently Wheat, Wheat, Barley, Sp Beans. though I try not to grow Sp Beans more than twice in 12 years... which leaves contemplating ORS for year 12 but eventually opting for fallow or oats... a new, reliable, profitable break crop which has the advantages of ORS without its disadvantages is badly needed! Maybe something that can be processed as a replacement to plastic perhaps or a maize that is ready for harvest whilst ground is baked hard in July :scratchhead:
 

Clive

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Moderator
Location
Lichfield
How do you rotate without OSR, 2nd Wheats here are 2t/a on a good year ? WW-WB- ?( OSR )- WW -S Beans is what I'd like to do, trying W Linseed in the OSR slot, but not all the OSR area to start with :scratchhead:


combination of spring linseed (which does well here) Beans (do ok most year here) and some land going into cont barley / cont winter grain rye ...................... is the plan
 

TWF

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Peterborough
Same here hardly a slug in sight, drilling on the green after osr late October. Field was moled then rolled to level the ground again in the Summer. Osr volunteers untouched by slugs
No slugs post osr either.
Few post beans and linseed ironically.
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That's wheat into lots of cover/osr vols.
 

4course

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
north yorks
we stopped growing osr years ago at least 15 and havnt used slug pellets other than the odd bag for years, heavy land , this year so as to get the rotation back into some order after last year have put some in hope the beggars dont come back
 

nick...

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
south norfolk
I’ve not used a slug pellet here in 3 years and this will be the 4th hopefully.have grown rape too for last 15 years but dropped it for this growing season.we got some medium to heavy land in places,for norfolk and I allways get a fine seedbed and roll it down which seems to deter them.probably spoke too soon now having stated drilling again today into some muddy seed beds.we will see
nick...
 

Steevo

Member
Location
Gloucestershire
Seems like it's just me then. No OSR at all here.

Got a few slugs showing up around here spotted when out walking today. DD 2nd wheat fields the worst, anything ploughed is clear of slugs and is growing away much quicker but that has all trash buried and the land walks drier.
 

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