Where have you "BIN"with my green waste.

[icanshootwell]

How about this then, a fully loaded green waste lorry decided to take out my fence, about 26 ton. 2 recovery lorries yesterday and today thinking there going to lift and drag it back on to the narrow lane, after 2 days all they managed to do was f**k up the road. I told them, there is only one place that,s going and that,s down and into the field. 3 men that were in the lorry at the time were all ok, they only had some bruising and soiled pants.

 

[Still Farming]

Looks like lorry could be recycled now too ????

 

[TripleSix]

Do them a favour and gas axe it into bits and weigh It in...

 

[Wurzeetoo]

How did that happen? Looks a fairly straight track

 

[JWL]

Can you honestly say that you're surprised by anything to do with officialdom working to rectify any cock-ups in the county?

 

[GeorgeK]

"It means recycle you idiot, not victory roll!"

 

[delilah]

Wagons are too big, Carting the material too far. Chasing a rainbow that only exists because its an industry that has swallowed the lie that the way to riches is through rationalization and economies of scale. Sound familiar ?
In 25 years of collecting garden waste with a tractor and trailer the worst I ever did was take out a coping stone. Oh, and backed into a garage door. Oh, and.....

 

[nick...]

It’s the same everywhere.lorries are too big for the very small roads in the countryside.round here the road edges are all cracked due to too much weight
nick...

 

[TripleSix]

I was repairing a telehandler a couple of months ago that was loading the contents of recycling boxes.

The bin wagons tipped in a big shed and it was reloaded into walking floor trailers.

I suspect it was going to an EfW incinerator...

 

[Bald Rick]

It’s the same everywhere.lorries are too big for the very small roads in the countryside.round here the road edges are all cracked due to too much weight
nick...

Physician heal thyself....

 

[GeorgeK]

I have worked at the local tip and can confirm recycling figures are a scam. If 7 out of 10 of our waste containers went to recyclers then our official recycling rate would be 70%. But how much of the container load is actually recycled? Very little in some cases, the small amount with any value may be removed, the vast majority still ends up in landfill or incinerators

 

[delilah]

I have worked at the local tip and can confirm recycling figures are a scam. If 7 out of 10 of our waste containers went to recyclers then our official recycling rate would be 70%. But how much of the container load is actually recycled? Very little in some cases, the small amount with any value may be removed, the vast majority still ends up in landfill or incinerators

It was all buggered up when the decision was made to go down the route of DMR, Dry Mixed recycling, ie chuck all of the paper/glass/plastics/tins into one wheely bin.

For many years the community sector and some pioneering local authorities developed kerbside collections based on source separation. Very high recycling rates, very low contamination levels. Lots of jobs. Some brilliant appropriate technology vehicles were developed, small electric trucks etc, specific to the layout of the areas in which they operated.

All of which was anathema to big business. Soon as there was money in the job, in the form of long term contracts, the cartel (Biffa, Veolia etc) persuaded councils that the future was every household having a big bin, tipped in to a big truck. Uniform, easy to replicate, not many pesky employees needed. forget about how much actually makes it to an end reprocessor, we will fiddle the figures by saying that if it goes into the big bin then it counts towards your target.

Councils had to accept it, for the same reason that they have to give planning permission for a new supermarket. The party that is supposedly seeking consent to do business is in reality more powerful than the party they are applying to. Market share is the root of all evil.

 

[Yale]

Similar thing happened at the farm where my father grew up.

In the 1950’s a lorry carrying nuclear fuel rods ended upside down in their field off the A road next to the farm.

There was such a panic when the police got there.

Local Bobby told my grandfather not to take photographs.

Would have been a major incident today but they just closed the road,craned it out and iirc they fired the wagon up and carried on to Trawsfynydd.

 

[Gong Farmer]

I have worked at the local tip and can confirm recycling figures are a scam. If 7 out of 10 of our waste containers went to recyclers then our official recycling rate would be 70%. But how much of the container load is actually recycled? Very little in some cases, the small amount with any value may be removed, the vast majority still ends up in landfill or incinerators

You only have to look at the 'small appliances' skip at the RC. Full size skip filled to the brim with electrical appliances, are we expected to believe someone unscrews all of them to extract any chips, switches, motors, wiring etc for use elsewhere?
Apparently the scrap timber locally is collected by one of the big companies, chipped, then sent to Africa to be dried and pressed into firewood bricks, then shipped back to the UK for the 'insatiable' firewood brick industry. (Weather's too cold and wet in the UK to dry it properly)

 

[Exfarmer]

The most efficient recycling we could do is energy reclaim, and that is what most of Europe, especially Sweden does, the Japanese also big recyclers do it to. Nearly all our paper, plastic we can reclaim at least 90% of the energy used in manufacture. Much of the garden waste could head in that direction too.
Instead we employ tens of thousands of East Europeans sorting through the gross detritus that modern living discards in a vain attempt to get recycling figures of half this rate. To make matters worse many councils now allow glass into the mix , making a nasty job into a very dangerous one.

 

[2wheels]

It’s the same everywhere.lorries are too big for the very small roads in the countryside.round here the road edges are all cracked due to too much weight
nick...

round here it's big tractors and trailers.

 

[GeorgeK]

We used to recycle lots at the tip by letting people take items away for spares or to repair, we stocked a large selection of vacuums especially Dyson. We would fix small engine machines like mowers and strimmers, often all they needed was fresh fuel, and sell them for a tenner. All this was banned on health and safety grounds because of potential liabilities with faulty items. Seemed a shame.
The biggest loss was people clearing out Granddad's old workshop, beautiful old hand tools sent to landfill

 

[icanshootwell]

How did that happen? Looks a fairly straight track

You can see the lorry started to go onto the verge about 20ft before it toppled over, had the driver stopped and reversed back may have saved it. The real joke here has been watching a recovery team trying to pull the lorry back onto the lane, they managed to pull it 5ft sideways all day yesterday. At one point i thought the front axle was coming off under the strain.
I think they were hoping to move it before the highways get there on Monday morning and see how they managed to damage the road. One chap told me that the lorry has been written off.

 

[Campbell]

Nothing like your incident, but this was outside here on an icy morning. Took all day to recover, eventually had to get a big wrecker in from Cardiff. They never did repair our hedge.

 

[itsalwaysme]

We used to recycle lots at the tip by letting people take items away for spares or to repair, we stocked a large selection of vacuums especially Dyson. We would fix small engine machines like mowers and strimmers, often all they needed was fresh fuel, and sell them for a tenner. All this was banned on health and safety grounds because of potential liabilities with faulty items. Seemed a shame.
The biggest loss was people clearing out Granddad's old workshop, beautiful old hand tools sent to landfill

Local area big recycling centre does have a "reuse shop" "Items for sale include bric-a brac, small electrical items and some furniture, all of which are safety tested. " I think it's closed at the moment due to Covid though.