WHERES THE CLOVER GO?

bluebell

Member
one field last year clover seen allover it, this year grass has grown through the mild wet winter, remember that? got the cows out grazed off cant see any at the moment, will it be there still or has it gone?
 
one field last year clover seen allover it, this year grass has grown through the mild wet winter, remember that? got the cows out grazed off cant see any at the moment, will it be there still or has it gone?

What are P and K indices of aforementioned field?

Clover doesn't like very wet conditions nor will it sit well in low P scenarios.

Also, what kind of clover was there, white or red, how big was the leaf?
 
If it was a White Clover variety it will be late if soil temperatures remain low and/or soil has been water logged for a period and if the grass was vigorous over the early spring due to the N supplied by the decomposing clover root nodules from the previous abundant clover season, as reported.
Clovers come into full growth mode when soil temperature exceeds 15 degrees. Prior to that it is most sensitive to being denied light from grasses. Especially if muck was applied in earlier season, as the grass will still be responding to the copious quantities of N and K. Clover responds to P and S.
 

Barleycorn

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BASE UK Member
Location
Hampshire
We've got the same with lucerne, I think that the wet winter knocked that badly. A few shoots still there, hopefully with a bit of heat it will come back.
 

dogjon

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Western Oregon
Global Ovine has it dialed in. White clover starts to wake up around 50 degrees (f) starts growing around 55 degrees. Get addicted to your soil thermometer.
 

bluebell

Member
do you know what, i can remember back, to the 1970s the winters then , grass yoused to be burnt back yellow brown with the frosts, now we have mild wet winters grass doesnt stop growing, if it was not so wet could have been grazed earlier, the good old days, hard frosts trying to get something to start when you did the diesil had gone like jelly? spending half a morningr unfreezing the water pipes troughs, the point is if you had a long spell of cold weather in the winter you got into a routien, at least when you got the tractors started you could get out on the land without making a mess and do someting like spread some muck
 

Dalos

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Shropshire
We've got the same with lucerne, I think that the wet winter knocked that badly. A few shoots still there, hopefully with a bit of heat it will come back.
Our 2 fields of lucerne have fared quite differently to each other , the one is flying away but the other sat wet all winter and i dont know if it will be a worthwile crop going forward, will have to see how it comes by first cut and make a decision then
 

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