Which hybrid WB next year?

[Stuart J]

Which hybrid are you choosing? Are you changing?

 

[herman]

Been growing bazooka for a few years now.
Trying Kingsbarn this autumn, it's supposed to be better.

 

[Suppin Diesel]

Just finished our Kingsbarn today , plenty of it but just grama phone needles. But could be just the year and our locality.

 

[quattro]

Kingston or belmont both doing excellent in grain and straw this year

 

[Bobthebuilder]

Cut our kingsbarn yesterday, sown 90kg/ha average 15%, very tall but twisted over after heavy shower last week, 19ac ended up with 164 5ft6 round bales and @ 70t

 

[Stuart J]

Cut our kingsbarn yesterday, sown 90kg/ha average 15%, very tall but twisted over after heavy shower last week, 19ac ended up with 164 5ft6 round bales and @ 70t

What about grain yield?

 

[Bobthebuilder]

What about grain yield?

Can you not do simple maths

 

[Stuart J]

Can you not do simple maths

Oops, didn't read your post properly!

 

[robbie]

Your not alone, I thought the @70t was refering to the price per ton of the straw.

 

[4course]

we will not be growing any hybrids, until the breeder of the seed will guarantee me a solid margin over the cost of seed ,not to mention any recommended agronomy margin

 

[robbie]

Same here, I like the hybrids in principle but when I've grown it I've always found any extra goes into syngenta's pocket Ind not mine. FSS 2 rows for me.

 

[Bobthebuilder]

Your not alone, I thought the @70t was refering to the price per ton of the straw.

that would read £70/t but it almost double that anyway

 

[Chae1]

Getting 4t/acre from 5th generation cassia here. 4 hesstons/acre. 65kg/l

Can't see how to justify the extra costs of a hybrid

 

[Bobthebuilder]

the tower 2 row has done slightly better than the kingsbarn, but still in shed as keeping most of it for feed

 

[snarling bee]

Bazooka lodged severely in one field this year. Kingsbarn not much better. Too little yield, too expensive seed, can't HS, too risky on bushel wt. I'm going to grow 2 row from now on, and pick the variety on standing power.

 

[robbie]

There's some new 2 rows, Tardis,Bolton,bourdoux ect which are all on a par with the hybrids so why bother.

Yes they say hybrids compete with weeds but so does normal barley as for a start it can be drilled much thicker.

 

[ajd132]

2 rows have caught up with hybrids not worth the extra cost I guess unless you want loads of straw

 

[robbie]

2 rows have caught up with hybrids not worth the extra cost I guess unless you want loads of straw

In my experience they don't yield any more straw, that was the main reason for me growing them but over the 3 years I grew them I never had anymore straw.
I found that by the time the grain was fit enough to get it to thrash well enough to get the awns off the straw would knock up to nothing.

 

[ajd132]

In my experience they don't yield any more straw, that was the main reason for me growing them but over the 3 years I grew them u never had anymore straw.
I found that by the time the grain was fit enough to get it to thrash well enough to get the awns off the straw would knock up to nothing.

Fair play. We only grew it once a couple of years ago and it did get really tall but the yield was poor, spring barley yielded the same.

 

[robbie]

Same here, the first year I grew bazooka it was over 4 foot tall and I was expecting massive volumes of straw and to be fair the headland we cut early did have lots of straw but we had a tank full of awny barley we couldn't get out!!!!! But once ripe there was no more straw than the other part of the field which was cassia and the cassia was better quality straw too.