James
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How longs a piece of string?
It's surely possible for any to do big hours/miles
It's surely possible for any to do big hours/miles
How longs a piece of string?
It's surely possible for any to do big hours/miles
I run old and new valtras contracting , the tractor on triple mowers is 12 year old, tedding is 17 , raking is 25 , wagons are pulled by 17, 16 and 2 year olds , last summer we did 2800 acres of grass without any break downs, that is great service from older high hour tractors, most silage outfits I see are running all new tractors , how they pay for them I don’t know.
Yes contractor near here would be doin around 16-20k acres a year. No offence to james but 2800 acres isnt anythin to be shoutin about. That crowd has a fleet out practically every day of the year doin long hours. They used yo be nh/case but are all jd bar 1 blue now and maintain jd is the only 1 thatl stick them and they never buy new and still have some 30 series deeres with around 20k hours still doin front line jobs of pullin 4000 odd gallon tankers and silage trailersMonthly finance payments is how they pay for them.
2800 acres of grass would be first cut for many silage crews, add in 2 or 3 more cuts plus whole crop and then a month of maize and you start to see why the hours creep up.
How many hours on your tractors?
They'll last for years if you only do 4/500 but if you're doing 2/3000 per year, replacement dates arrive quickly.
Yes contractor near here would be doin around 16-20k acres a year. No offence to james but 2800 acres isnt anythin to be shoutin about. That crowd has a fleet out practically every day of the year doin long hours. They used yo be nh/case but are all jd bar 1 blue now and maintain jd is the only 1 thatl stick them and they never buy new and still have some 30 series deeres with around 20k hours still doin front line jobs of pullin 4000 odd gallon tankers and silage trailers
While a tractor is stil fresh enough and not rusted out or completely worn out it has to be worth fixin as new price is so high. If u can work with a good inde mechanic a few grand still does quite a bit of fixin yet. If ur wantin to run to big hours its probably better to buy a popular brand and model as aftermarket parts will be more plentiful which could help with cost of fixinNot knocking James either, he runs a smaller, lower cost business (probably makes more money than the new fleet every year mega acre guys) but yearly hours vary a lot between contactors, large farms with complex rotations and smaller farms.
The question of what's an economical repair is not limited to tractors, lots of industries struggle with it. From trucks to mining shovels to planes and aircraft carriers.
When do you stop repairing and buy new?
Who's that?Yes contractor near here would be doin around 16-20k acres a year. No offence to james but 2800 acres isnt anythin to be shoutin about. That crowd has a fleet out practically every day of the year doin long hours. They used yo be nh/case but are all jd bar 1 blue now and maintain jd is the only 1 thatl stick them and they never buy new and still have some 30 series deeres with around 20k hours still doin front line jobs of pullin 4000 odd gallon tankers and silage trailers
Lyons.Who's that?
Depends how cheap you can get head gasket done on Deere
Be interesting to see how far these ratios sway in the next couple of years . JD seem thin on the ground these parts recentlyI see as many old Valtras with high hours as JD.
JD out sells Valtra by 6 to 1.
Does that answer the question?
Figures for 2019 will be out very soonBe interesting to see how far these ratios sway in the next couple of years . JD seem thin on the ground these parts recently
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I rest my case.
Our mf4370 is like that. It has 14300 hours on it but if i do 10 hours work itl never have 10 hours clocked be more like 5-7 hours. Years ago i was rollin with it for 13 hours 1 day and it only clocked 3 hours as it was little more than tickin overThat leyland would be more like 80,000 hours on a modern tractor with a digital clock, those old analogue clock would only clock up an hour when revving at certain rpm, probably 1700-1800. Doubt a modern tractor would even think about working that amount of hours.
I would say economical repair is repairs adding up to well less than the value of the vehicle.Not knocking James either, he runs a smaller, lower cost business (probably makes more money than the new fleet every year mega acre guys) but yearly hours vary a lot between contactors, large farms with complex rotations and smaller farms.
The question of what's an economical repair is not limited to tractors, lots of industries struggle with it. From trucks to mining shovels to planes and aircraft carriers.
When do you stop repairing and buy new?
Yep like our old 1210 running the mill or dryer or old simplex bin fan for hours on end on 1100 revs. Doesn't clock them till 1400rpm. Still managed to rack a few hours on it 15000+Our mf4370 is like that. It has 14300 hours on it but if i do 10 hours work itl never have 10 hours clocked be more like 5-7 hours. Years ago i was rollin with it for 13 hours 1 day and it only clocked 3 hours as it was little more than tickin over
Not many Leylands did either, Ive never missed ours ,but the fitters haveThat leyland would be more like 80,000 hours on a modern tractor with a digital clock, those old analogue clock would only clock up an hour when revving at certain rpm, probably 1700-1800. Doubt a modern tractor would even think about working that amount of hours.