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I believe CNH have had a hydrogen tractor on trial for quite some time, i seem to recall something being used at Wyke farms?
Which manufacturer to launch the first electric tractor
- Thread starter Johnnyboxer
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Water and electricity don't mix!
The size of cable needed with armouring would be about 4inches in diameter, and add massive weight.
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- Aberdeenshire
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- Co antrim
How about wireless chargin
ollie989898
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Methane power would make more sense?
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- Aberdeenshire
Yeah but have you seen the New Holland Methane tractor it looks ridiculous
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- North Norfolk
It is quite well hidden how much cobalt is used in petrol and diesel refining (for sulphur removal, as a catalyst), on top of the massive energy use (in the order of 1 kWh/litre), so there are pros and cons for both systems.
holywell farmer
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John Deere also had a 7530e although it never made it into production,
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- Le Veurde, Allier, France 03320
Perhaps but that still doesn’t make it right to continue pillaging a finite resource does it?
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- North Norfolk
It can be recycled, unlike oil or gas. It is not used up in batteries. With that logic, we should stop digging up oil, gas and coal now.
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- Le Veurde, Allier, France 03320
I think if you reread my post I didn’t mention cobalt, I was talking precious metals in general. Surely there is a better way to produce power, naturally produced gasses and adapted combustion engines are surely far more renewable? I just think that this is a very convenient way to make money for a smallish number of people with limited environmental benefit. The clever types should be looking down the renewable energy path which electric is not.
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- Aberdeenshire
The real problem no one seems to be address is the price of electricity. If I'm doing a job that requires 100kwh and I'm paying 14p ish a unit thats £14 hour just in electricity compared to diesel consumption of at max (worse case scenario) 24litres an hour for my fendt 313 thats still only £12 an hour But it is fair to say that the price of diesel is a lot more volatile than electricity.
That's not even the real cost of renewable energy either as it is highly subsidised currently and has shown no sign that it will ever be able to produce energy for less than we are currently paying for it.
That's not even the real cost of renewable energy either as it is highly subsidised currently and has shown no sign that it will ever be able to produce energy for less than we are currently paying for it.
Unless my maths are completely wrong.....
A Tesla 3 weighs about 1700kg and can travel 350miles with the extended pack. SO - a tractor (and trailer/mower/wagon) could weigh 18ton(?) so call the car 2000kg for ease of maths and that means that the tractor and 'trailer' can travel for 38miles. However most of that mileage would be used up drawing power for the mower/wagon/rake etc and I know from experience that the miles alone can be used up VERY quickly when towing large silage trailers. This coupled with the fact that when carting sileage etc the most break you get is 15mins combined with possibly a 12/14/16/18hours day then you'd never recharge them.
This doesn't allow for muckspreaders/pumping slurry etc where a big 200hp machine could be running flat out for hours on end.
A Tesla 3 weighs about 1700kg and can travel 350miles with the extended pack. SO - a tractor (and trailer/mower/wagon) could weigh 18ton(?) so call the car 2000kg for ease of maths and that means that the tractor and 'trailer' can travel for 38miles. However most of that mileage would be used up drawing power for the mower/wagon/rake etc and I know from experience that the miles alone can be used up VERY quickly when towing large silage trailers. This coupled with the fact that when carting sileage etc the most break you get is 15mins combined with possibly a 12/14/16/18hours day then you'd never recharge them.
This doesn't allow for muckspreaders/pumping slurry etc where a big 200hp machine could be running flat out for hours on end.
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- Aberdeenshire
Whatever happened to Biodiesel have we given up on that idea ?
ollie989898
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This is why heavy vehicles will be running on liquid fuels for many years to come.
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- North Norfolk
Some years ago KWS calculated that biogas is 4-5 times more carbon efficient than biodiesel and bioethanol - in "Farm Business" 5 Sept 2008 p 45
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- south norfolk
I’m sure all manufacturers have these electric machines ready to roll out when forced too.Ford will all be electric by end of decade and Jaguar and Volvo all electric by 2025.plenty of plant has been electric drive for probably 50/60 years with engines driving generators.instant torque and a flat torque curve would be great in farm machines.
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ollie989898
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I agree, a lot of serious quarry plant is electric drive by cable. Some of them are mobile(ish).
For a slurry pump, for example, it would be ideal as far far cheaper to run on electric than run a big diesel engine. Electric motors are nearly ridiculously simple compared to an engine and they are very efficient- what you consume in electricity is nearly what you get in motive power out of them. No exhaust and very little waste heat by comparison with an engine in which half the power of your fuel is sent straight up the exhaust.