which mig welder

jg123

Member
Mixed Farmer
Jasic 220 I think inverter welder, get synergic if you want really easy to setup and weld tidy. Can run off any 240v socket. I have a 50kg bottle chained to wall and long hose so can carry welder around workshop. Loads of suppliers find the best deal and then phone welding supplied direct. Parts and repairs and long warranty. Get heavy duty lance, only about £20 More but huge difference. The big single phase will weld most stuff for a farmer. Will weld loader brackets on at about it's limit. It will also weld tig and arc and stainless etc.

If looking at others look at duty cycle as well as amps, your not often at 100% power but it's a good indication of it's abilities
 

tinman

Member
Location
Ulster
Ohh!! Well the oxford mig we had was fifty times better than the excuse of a welder the two tecarcs are!!

Didn’t know Murex had gone actually but it must be over ten years since I used one. What are actually brand soecific inside a lot of these machines? The older ones are transformer machines anyhow.
sounds like its still possible to keep a murex running so not so bad, altho if i had a personal shortlist of welders murex wouldnt be on it but thats just me.

the oxford mig you had if it was old mightnt be tec arcs one for all i know, i dont know when they started badging them, i have a s-mig here a 350A screwed up to 400A, single phase.
its a good welder, gets the job done but its no Miller either, the price reflects that.
i have a 250A clarke one here, its a good 20 yrs old and still going but it was made in Italy, what youd get now is chinesium.

for the op, 250A is a size where youd get anything you would want to make welded.
duty cycle is most important, keep an eye on that, fine having a tin that says 200A but if the duty cycle is 40% (which would be bad) @200A then for every 4 minutes of welding your going to have to rest it for 6 minutes, every time.
thats no biggie if your doing small stuff but if say constant interrupted welding on a frame or maybe stringers on a bucket and such, its going to pi$$ you off rightly.
 

Mur Huwcun

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Livestock Farmer
Location
North West Wales
i have a 250A clarke one here, its a good 20 yrs old and still going but it was made in Italy, what youd get now is chinesium.

for the op, 250A is a size where youd get anything you would want to make welded.
duty cycle is most important, keep an eye on that, fine having a tin that says 200A but if the duty cycle is 40% (which would be bad) @200A then for every 4 minutes of welding your going to have to rest it for 6 minutes, every time.
thats no biggie if your doing small stuff but if say constant interrupted welding on a frame or maybe stringers on a bucket and such, its going to pi$$ you off rightly.

Dad’s got an oldish 250 Clarke in the shed. Don’t think much of Clarke stuff but the welders fine and I haven’t failed with anything with it yet!
 

tinman

Member
Location
Ulster
Dad’s got an oldish 250 Clarke in the shed. Don’t think much of Clarke stuff but the welders fine and I haven’t failed with anything with it yet!
i seen me with two cold fans taped to either side of the side cover with duct tape with a push pull thing going on to keep her cool, and shes still going.

way back then there was a bit of quality in things.
theres not too many outfits now that get up in the morning and think, whats the best thing we can do for our customers today.....
it saddens me to think about the quality society accepts today.
 

Munkul

Member
Budget - dont want to go silly. Just want something simple and easy to use

Bit of an issue here. Be realistic - is your budget £500? or £2000?

For £500 I would buy a 3 phase s/h welder from Cemont, Cebora, Miller, Kemppi, or other decent make - just make sure someone checks it over who knows welders, before you buy. A new torch can make a world of difference to an older welder - make sure it's a Euro connection.

For £1k I'd go straight with an Oxford 330 3 phase like this one
https://www.weldingsuppliesdirect.c...t/mig-welders/oxford-imig-330-threephase.html

For £2k I'd get an ESAB rebel, or something equally decent with synergic modes that make your life a lot easier, especially if you don't do much welding to start with.

Absolute bare minimum, especially since you have 3 phase, is 250 amps, in my opinion. It's way too easy to make a cold weld with a MIG that looks good - so you want plenty juice and wire feed system to match.
a genuine 250 amps will let you weld up to 10mm thick steel, but a lot more comfortable with 300 amps if you're doing a lot of stuff that thickness.

You can always turn a 500 amp machine down... but you can't turn a a 150 amp machine up!
 
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Jetemp

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Location
North Yorkshire
I bought a fronius TPS 2700 second hand paid £750 for it. In my opinion nothing else comes close to it. It will weld 10 mm easily is synergic which if your struggling can help with set up if your unsure. Pulsed mug is also a great feature!

I would highly recommend something similar. New they are 3-4K just keep looking for a used one!

James
 

Hardweld

Member
Location
Howden
I am a welder and have a small business, I run an oxford 420 in the workshop and I have a little 220 amp mig for site work and it I and Phil Weeks welder, both my welders are made I'm the UK with 2 years gurantee with them, I have used many welders in my life and had many problems but I can't fault these two homebrand machines and the great service their manufacturers have prvoided.
 

Hesston4860s

Member
Location
Nr Lincoln
Got a Murex 353 3 phase machine with remote feed I’m looking to move on, got all the cables etc with it !. Really good welder I bought it to build my shed frame back in 2014 and just have no use for it now as I’ve no electric in my yard.
 

Longneck

Member
Mixed Farmer
Got a Murex 353 3 phase machine with remote feed I’m looking to move on, got all the cables etc with it !. Really good welder I bought it to build my shed frame back in 2014 and just have no use for it now as I’ve no electric in my yard.

Any pictures, price please?
 

Deutzdx3

Member
A local chap who makes car panels from sheet metal for classics uses a sip tig. Has done for years and loves it. I had a demo on the sip4500 synergic not to long ago. Very nice machine. Under 2k. 350a inverter with a good warranty. Well worth a look. I have a fully synergic double pulse migatronic flex 330. Very nice machine for my purpose.
 
If budget allows, I have been very happy with my Kemppi Miniarcmig Evo 200. Fully automatic so you just dial in the thickness and type of metal and the welder sorts out the settings. I had never picked up a Mig before (I can stick weld) and found this instantly producing decent welds!
 

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