Which New Pick-Up Is The Best Vehicle To Get?

Which New Pick-Up Is The Best Vehicle To Get For Work? (Value for Money, Ability, Towing Capacity,


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Drillman

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Mixed Farmer
You are out of luck then unless you get to drive an unassisted system which mostly died out by the end of the 1980's.
Or perhaps you can provide an example of the vehicles you have in mind, because I'm at a loss?
Facelift ranger with leccy power steering is better than prefacelift. Finger light at low speeds and weights up nice once you get going along.
 

Cowabunga

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Location
Ceredigion,Wales
Facelift ranger with leccy power steering is better than prefacelift. Finger light at low speeds and weights up nice once you get going along.
I'm sure it is. I have had and do have electric power steering in several cars from a 2006 Fiat Panda to my current Volvo XC90. Somewhat oddly, in my opinion, it is fashionable for the motoring press to criticise them for being 'lifeless' and lacking in feedback from the road. Personally I really like electric power steering. It even allows steering when the engine is off on some cars and even on my Honda, moving the steering wheel fires the engine up from a stopped stop-start. My current Honda has a different tune from my previous 2.2 though. It is much heavier. I prefer the tune of the earlier version which was more like my Volvo on the medium setting of three available. The current Honda is more lie the Volvo with Sport Mode steering set. Too heavy in normal driving. Unfortunately the Honda does not give me a choice of settings.

Hang on though, just in case it does. I'll go out and check. If it does you have done me a favour by mentioning this.

EDIT
Unfortunately there is no adjustment through the dashboard available on this car. It only bothers me because it is heavier than my previous one and both my Qashqai and Volvo. The 2006 Ranger is more like the Honda, which what puzzles me in recent posts.
 
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Lincsman

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Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
Forget the hilux!
Done nearly 11k miles in a 19 plate invincible X auto .. the engine is gutless, whiney and thirsty. I mean sub 20mpg thirsty ! Fuel tank is too small (£75 to fill ) so you literally live in the petrol station.
Gearbox holds onto a gear for an eternity before deciding to change up, then downhill it tries to change down to 2nd so the engine whines so loud you think it’ll explode ..
Use low range and it constantly beeps, so much so that it’s preferable to get stuck than listen to it ... it randomly surges to 1200rpm on Tickover for no reason at all. The fuel cap release is annoyingly close to the bonnet release and not illuminated so most trips to the petrol station (twice daily) include either squinting in the footwell or inadvertently opening the bonnet ... it drinks ad-blue by the gallon ... parking sensors beep constantly and the you can’t swith off the rear ones so when you have a trailer on and reverse it beeps so much your ears bleed ...
Rear parking sensors along with rear fogs are disabled by a switch in the socket or via software if a "genuine" loom is used,, shoddy installation.
 

kiwi pom

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Location
canterbury NZ
Iv found the parking sensor button, it switches off the front, but not the rear .. it beeps insesantly .
Another point I forgot to mention is the radio ... there is only a reliable receiption in towns... not really a HiLux’s normal environment is it ?
Iv done 11k miles in mine and Iv put in at least 30L of adblue (excluding what it came with)
I had a new one in 2012 that was a much better truck, how can they go backwards?

Had it in low range again today ... why is it necessary to beep constantly? Why? It makes no sense ..

Have you had the dealer look at it, it sounds like there's something wrong with it, going by some of the posts on here?
 

ricky_rascal

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Location
N. Yorks
Doesn't that button just turn the front off though? Shouldn't beep when in low range as don't recall the one I sometimes drive doing it. For that matter the rear ones turn off when trailer electrics plugged in. OEM trailer electrics usually plug direct into loom with no scotchlocks to be seen and such as vehicle fog and parking sensors turned off when trailer socket is plugged in. Modern vehicles seems to incessantly beep at any excuse.
 

Cowabunga

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Location
Ceredigion,Wales
Took some video of the beeping ...
Excuse the McDonalds wrappers it was a long week delivering


Wired by muppets.
The issue with low range is that it doesn’t seem to be engaging low. Or the flashing amber light in the centre of the instruments is trying to tell you something else. The low range beep may have something to do with the flashing amber light even if it isn’t indicating a failure to engage low range or a change in progress.
Very little appears to be right on your pickup. Not least the fuel and Adblue consumption. Unless you are hammering it fully loaded while towing nearly all the time of course.
 

nick...

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Arable Farmer
Location
south norfolk
the switch for the rear sensors are on left end of dash and have to open door to turn of.the switch on right lower dash is front sensors.which I don't have on mine.i have a genuine Toyota towbar and this does not stop beeping when plugged in
nick...
 

nick...

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
south norfolk
Wired by muppets.
The issue with low range is that it doesn’t seem to be engaging low. Or the flashing amber light in the centre of the instruments is trying to tell you something else. The low range beep may have something to do with the flashing amber light even if it isn’t indicating a failure to engage low range or a change in progress.
Very little appears to be right on your pickup. Not least the fuel and Adblue consumption. Unless you are hammering it fully loaded while towing nearly all the time of course.
ill agree with all of this.the light flashes till 4wd engaged or disengaged wether in high or low range.im on my third mk 8 and apart from bad economy on first one caused by temp sensor reading minus 40 and dumping lots of fuel into motor ive had no other problems,apart from creaking in chassis which was badly adjusted bonnet rubbers.ask for another truck
nick...
 

Cowabunga

Member
Location
Ceredigion,Wales
the switch for the rear sensors are on left end of dash and have to open door to turn of.the switch on right lower dash is front sensors.which I don't have on mine.i have a genuine Toyota towbar and this does not stop beeping when plugged in
nick...
Genuine Toyota wiring loom adapter for 13 pin socket as well? Lots of main dealers seem to be cutting corners here to save pennies and scotchlocking a generic 13 pin into the wiring loom.
It is compulsory, as far as I know, to have an indicator repeater warning, either audible or visible, to show that trailer indicators work. Yet many main dealers bodge the plug installation which means no indicator warning in the cab. I’ve been had twice by bodges in this way and intend never to be caught again.
 

nick...

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
south norfolk
no idea if mine has been scotch locked but I doubt it.ive seen the Toyota one before installation and there is a plug that plugs in to wiring after two plugs are pulled apart so its pretty difficult to get wrong,infact impossible id imagine.im on 7 pin electricsas both my ifors are the same
nick...
 

Lincsman

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
It’s a Toyota branded one ?

Has it a Toyota loom?, I think its a cheap standard split wires and fit relay job thats missing the switched socket and extra relays to sort the rear fogs and sensors. A lot are fitted like this as the Rear fog isnt often used so no one is bothered... parking sensors makes it a must really.
 

Lincsman

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
Genuine Toyota wiring loom adapter for 13 pin socket as well? Lots of main dealers seem to be cutting corners here to save pennies and scotchlocking a generic 13 pin into the wiring loom.
It is compulsory, as far as I know, to have an indicator repeater warning, either audible or visible, to show that trailer indicators work. Yet many main dealers bodge the plug installation which means no indicator warning in the cab. I’ve been had twice by bodges in this way and intend never to be caught again.


Something tells me the indicator signaler is not now compulsory, Led lights often wont make it work (certainly the case with my fert spreader on the tractor) and My Ford edge with a Ford 13 pin loom does not show anything but does sort fogs and sensors. I questioned this at the first service thinking it would be a software issue, but from 3 sources inc the specialist towbar fitter told me this wasnt now needed, after all why is the indicator more important than any other light that you dont know isn't working?
 

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