As above, as we have TFF members worldwide I would be really interested to know if the Agricultural Dept of the Government in the country you live/farm is proposing schemes that will pay you to take your farm out of food production and turn it over to wildlife, by rewilding it.
Which other Government Agricultural Departments on the planet ,are,creating schemes to take land out agriculture production for rewilding
- Thread starter Pilatus
- Start date
Yanks seem to be threatening something...
Roger Perry
Member
Thanks Roger ,in my ignorance what does. CRP stand for ??
- Location
- West Wales
What does that program entail and how are farmers vapid to participate?
Roger Perry
Member
Princess Pooper
Member
- Location
- East Mids
I think there are quite a few across Europe https://rewildingeurope.com/news/sp...-initiative-joins-european-rewilding-network/
Thanks for the post,good to know what other countries are into re-wilding. I may be missing something , but I can't understand ,that with an ever increasing population in most countries , that are not self sufficient in food production , can be encouraging land to be returned to its natural state.
It would be interesting to know if those 34million acres were good agricultural land or whether it is land that is very poor so not very productive for cropping whether that be combinable crops or grazing for cattle etc.
Global ovine
Member
- Location
- Central Otago NZ
The NZ Gov't has stopped Tenure revues where mountain and hard hill country land was surrendered from the Crown Pastoral leases (where strict stocking rates were instigated, but tenants had 999 year leases, so were traditionally valued as freehold ownership) in exchange for the free holding of a portion of the stronger land for pastoral development and other uses eg. tourism. Unfortunately weed and pest control is no longer kept to the standard seen when controlled by farmers.
These areas now add another 7.1% of NZ total land mass to the already 41% held as National and Forest Parks (note no commercial activity other than tourism in Dept. of Conservation land).
The NZ Gov't having almost half of the land mass under DoC control has left the sale of farmland for market forces to prevail. The situation is now very threatening to the sheep and beef industry as the current world trading price for carbon is around $NZ75.00 a ton. On moist warm hill country this equates to almost 4 times the revenue of sheep and beef per hectare. And incidentally almost equal to dairy returns. Both NZ and overseas consortiums are now buying up large tracts to be planted into pine for ad-infinitum forests just to collect this easy money. Costs are all in the initial years and rural communities will become zombie towns with remaining farms more isolated. Here we need the Gov't to step in to protect such communities and keep export earnings going or NZ's standard of living will slide. A recent report suggested that this practice on north eastern North Is. hill country may have a negative return within a century under carbon farming. However one cannot blame current sheep and beef farmers from cashing in on the inflated land values.
Rewilding is not a Gov't policy, but many rural catchment groups are very focused on restoring waterway health by riparian planting and returning low areas back to wetlands. But much of that can't happen unless their farming business are profitable.
Fortunately NZ does not have any indigenous mammals other than seals and sea lions along the coast. Everything else introduced and harmful to indigenous vegetation is a pest and treated as such by many methods, including farmers by levy payments for TB eradication. Hence our sympathies to those farmers whose Gov'ts want to reintroduce killer animals.
These areas now add another 7.1% of NZ total land mass to the already 41% held as National and Forest Parks (note no commercial activity other than tourism in Dept. of Conservation land).
The NZ Gov't having almost half of the land mass under DoC control has left the sale of farmland for market forces to prevail. The situation is now very threatening to the sheep and beef industry as the current world trading price for carbon is around $NZ75.00 a ton. On moist warm hill country this equates to almost 4 times the revenue of sheep and beef per hectare. And incidentally almost equal to dairy returns. Both NZ and overseas consortiums are now buying up large tracts to be planted into pine for ad-infinitum forests just to collect this easy money. Costs are all in the initial years and rural communities will become zombie towns with remaining farms more isolated. Here we need the Gov't to step in to protect such communities and keep export earnings going or NZ's standard of living will slide. A recent report suggested that this practice on north eastern North Is. hill country may have a negative return within a century under carbon farming. However one cannot blame current sheep and beef farmers from cashing in on the inflated land values.
Rewilding is not a Gov't policy, but many rural catchment groups are very focused on restoring waterway health by riparian planting and returning low areas back to wetlands. But much of that can't happen unless their farming business are profitable.
Fortunately NZ does not have any indigenous mammals other than seals and sea lions along the coast. Everything else introduced and harmful to indigenous vegetation is a pest and treated as such by many methods, including farmers by levy payments for TB eradication. Hence our sympathies to those farmers whose Gov'ts want to reintroduce killer animals.
Tarw Coch
Member
- Location
- Bottom of Wats Dyke
- Location
- Carmarthenshire, West Wales
if it is very poor land, then it needs farming in a way to improve it's productivity, mob grazing to improve the soil and also amendments to kick start the biology etc, that's my opinion anyway, yes farm in a wildlife friendly way and banks etc can be put over to trees/woods, but we must not "re wild" (abandon - as without megafauna it is not wilded), it is not only stupid and succumbing to the Disneyfication of our ideas of the natural world (and falling for compassionate conservation https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2020.01139/full )
Lazy Sod
Member
- Location
- Warminster Wiltshire
With most of Salisbury Plain rewilded by the army during WW2, I think that Wiltshire has already done it's bit.
Depends how you carbon account, how much was released by WW2, Wiltshire probably owes us the rest as well