Which tool for min till

[Dman2]

Ok
so possibly looking at going down min till route for some of our land
Have @ 150hp to play with
What are my options
Not looking new

 

[bobk]

Trio

 

[Dman2]

Trio

Thought they would be hungrier than 120 - 190hp
Usually associate Sumo gear with high horsepower

 

[bobk]

Thought they would be hungrier than 120 - 190hp
Usually associate Sumo gear with high horsepower

Better than a discaerator , are you on lads land

 

[Dman2]

Mans land
Although not all of it is
We`ve got it now so that one pass with a combi after the plough is all that`s needed
But always try and tread carefully so no compaction

 

[Renaultman]

Xpress or similar. Doesn't go as deep as a trio but that's not a bad thing IMHO

 

[bobk]

Xpress or similar. Doesn't go as deep as a trio but that's not a bad thing IMHO

 

[Andy26]

I'd say a short disc like a Vad Carrier, Horsch Joker, Proforge Inverta or lots of cheap Eastern European ones.

And if you need to remove compaction use a different tool.

 

[Renaultman]

Mine's only a 3m with ST bar. Apart from not liking a lot of trash it works really well for me. This year 1 pass with it and straight in with Vaddy system disc.

 

[bobk]

Mine's only a 3m with ST bar. Apart from not liking a lot of trash it works really well for me. This year 1 pass with it and straight in with Vaddy system disc.

Have you got any bg

 

[Phil P]

We bought a dal-bo supermax 300 back in September and been really, really impressed with the results on our heavy ground. One pass then combi drill.
The 300 (3m) says 180hp minimum in the specs though but I believe there is a 250 (2.5m) which is rated at 150hp. I priced the equivalent KV and Sumo machines and the price gap was staggering!

This is some really heavy yellow clay that we did with it this time and there’s not a missed bit on it (unlike usually!)

ps, it doesn’t like a lot of long trash but I don’t think many do, need a pass with the discs first if it’s really trashy.

 

[Will 1594]

Mix of land here ,
we got a knight 700 s tripple press , discs tines discs ,then double ring packer ,
lighter land once over with legs in 8/10 inch ,
heavier stuff , run legs maybe 3 ,4 inch deep ,and then low disturbance subsoiler ,
or shakerator ,with legs at 30 cm spacing on lighter going or after beet and spuds ,
then combi drill ,
do it when dry ,and get some weathering on it , works well ,
had a trio type machine but too heavy ,and better two operations ,to cultivate ,and any compaction removed as separate job ,

 

[Renaultman]

Have you got any bg

No, bit of Ryegrass, I am aware and nervous about potential problems and see my current system as a step along the road to no till.

 

[casper74]

I have a 3m xpress with st bar 1 pass then combi, on some light land and heavy clay land works well, as others have said it's not keen on a lot of trash.

 

[ollie989898]

That wants to be on a more powerful horse and punt the forward speed up a bit.

 

[BuskhillFarm]

I’ve been looking at alternative cultivations myself. From Claydon to min till. A tined cultivator seems the best option I think, a Pottinger synkro or the likes.

I’ve heavy ground that’s usually damp so tines work best, discs lead to compaction. The sumo trio is basically both out together so really need twice the horse power.

Compaction looks to be a bigger problem with min till, so I’m asking myself a cultivator + subsoiler = more capital or more power requirement than ploughing? Or do I just hire in an extra plough man?

 

[mo!]

Depends on what your 150hp tractor is. I've got a 2.5m trio with NG legs on a T7.210 which is 165hp rated and it is fine as long as you haven't got 1000 acres to do. I'm talking 6k if you've got it buried to 18". A lighter "pocket rocket" tractor will struggle to handle a trio. Simba X-press with ST are not really a heavy land tool, tines tend to bring up lumps which then take loads of power to break down.

 

[Two Tone]

I’ve got a 3 metre Trio for sale if anybody is interested. Our NH TM155 never struggled with it.
I has the wide wings on at the moment but comes with 2 complete additional sets of points and standard wing sets with welded on points. The points are brand new on one set and the wings are brand new on the other set. £8,000 buys it.

PM me if interested.

 

[benny6910]

Are you still planning on using your combi drill? Do you ever subsoil or is the plough enough to lift your wheeling/compaction?

 

[thorpe]

Thought they would be hungrier than 120 - 190hp
Usually associate Sumo gear with high horsepower

use 168 hp on trailed trio it loves pulling it till it hits a bank , soil type dosnt seem to matter its the banks that kills it.