Rare white-tailed eagle poisoned with banned pesticide which can kill humans
Sea eagle found dead along with buzzard and dog in West Sussex
www.independent.co.uk
White-tailed eagle killed in West Sussex with dangerous banned pesticide
- Thread starter GeorgeC1
- Start date
www.independent.co.uk
- Location
- North Somerset.
Behind a paywall, anything of substance other than the headline?
- Location
- Essex
What was the chemical?
bendiocarb
they are magnificant animals imo.
Bramble
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Ficam D, internet says it looks like it’s still available
farmerm
Member
- Location
- Shropshire
The low 1.25% concentration formulation of bendiocarb remains available but the 80% one got pulled.
- Location
- Essex
Tarw Coch
Member
- Location
- Bottom of Wats Dyke
According to google it’s for use against wasps and ants indoors .
Sounds like something used in the pest control industry rather than agriculture, I can find no reference to it being banned as in the thread title
- Location
- Essex
Yes, it sounds like an organophosphate.
ollie989898
Member
It's a carbamate. Similar mode of action though.
They get up here too---make the Buzzards look like Sparrows !
- Location
- sw scotland
Could never condone deliberate poisoning but there is going to have to be a balance somehow. Started 20 pairs around Mull and now over 600 on west coast getting down to north of Glasgow. In spite of denials, now accepted they take lambs and on some farms we are talking about a lot. Why would you dive for a fish when there are plenty of dopey lambs who don't look up much.
Great for tourism as they are magnificent but farmers need compensating for feeding them.
Once a few toy poodles get lifted Joe Public might not find them so impressive.
Great for tourism as they are magnificent but farmers need compensating for feeding them.
Once a few toy poodles get lifted Joe Public might not find them so impressive.
farmerm
Member
- Location
- Shropshire
I believe it is banned in Scotland and the EU and the 80% version has lost its authorisation but the 1.25% powder is still available for bee/wasp/ant control.. The bird allegedly had 7x a lethal dose in its system so one imagines that would require the strong stuff...
Wilksy
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- Location
- East Riding
7x does that rule out secondary poisoning?
farmerm
Member
- Location
- Shropshire
if accurate I would think it would have required a pretty concentrated dose.
I am curious as to what chemicals are routinely covered by a standard toxilogical test in these kind of instances. For carbamate to be include in tox screening one assumes its not the first time that chemical has killed wildlife?
Exfarmer
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- Location
- Bury St Edmunds
All toxicological tests are done using certain standards. They use LD50 as a test of the toxicity. Thisis the dose which will kill 50% of the lab animal. The standard of course is rats but they can use other creatures .
it is known that LD 50 is a very imprecise way of assessing the dangers of a particular material, with many animals showing no issue with exposure while many others of closely related species being damaged severely.
We now know that if the proverbial Guinea Pig were used for testing penicillin, it would never have reached the doctors as it is very poisonous to them
it is known that LD 50 is a very imprecise way of assessing the dangers of a particular material, with many animals showing no issue with exposure while many others of closely related species being damaged severely.
We now know that if the proverbial Guinea Pig were used for testing penicillin, it would never have reached the doctors as it is very poisonous to them